X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CD304ECD-2107-4E7F-90CF-42279D5C9D2F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Pin mapping (separate symbols from mappings) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201510190408.t9J48ZbC015157@envy.delorie.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 22:53:35 -0600 Message-Id: References: <20151018204010 DOT 9cce6a231dcc296256e187bd AT gmail DOT com> <201510181843 DOT t9IIhmWo025346 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151018234424 DOT c0551dad9bef0859130239d9 AT gmail DOT com> <36B94694-F2AC-4A75-A8EB-40A1CE9A534C AT noqsi DOT com> <201510182225 DOT t9IMPkxK032763 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151019003814 DOT f62620bf0fec77e65104c105 AT gmail DOT com> <201510190242 DOT t9J2gl7w009345 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <282EF9EF-E103-4101-BB56-A0A365AFFEBE AT noqsi DOT com> <201510190408 DOT t9J48ZbC015157 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_CD304ECD-2107-4E7F-90CF-42279D5C9D2F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Oct 18, 2015, at 10:08 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >=20 >> Then you're talking about a *drastic* change to geda-gaf, or a new >> schematic toolkit entirely. >=20 > Why? Just because we have no way of figuring out which symbol is = which? Well, just looking at the gnetlist API, nearly every function uses the = refdes to identify the =93package=94, and the pinnumber to identify the = pin. This is both in function arguments and returned data. You can often = leave out pinseq or pinlabel, but a pin without pinnumber is trouble. >=20 >> But I don't see why a symbolic pin cannot have a number to identify >> it: it need not have anything to do with the physical pin. >=20 > I doctored those symbols to have symbolic pins, but if you instantiate > two deafult 7400.sym's you get pin numbers - but they both have pins > 1,2,3, so no help there. >=20 Sure. But in an abstract flow, those numbers are not necessarily the = physical pin numbers. Your map determines the translation. Original-U1-1 = maps to U1-2 while original U2-1 maps to U1-5. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_CD304ECD-2107-4E7F-90CF-42279D5C9D2F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWJHdPAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRjxcP/jE98XvSw41rvJebc+c2Gwo8 8hllLluKcpHcJHmqTJPFfp+pj7DR3PeMPYvDCFb/Fxn8Q7insLr/hyXJmyQEer+5 MUC5/AzP/8Yu1Rd0QMm0Gurs2rBP0pQr10DgUXrbA7FD65YpBvIKJz+4z6/OZz3+ e+XcTDW2l1IsjGPLuD518oQGkzynPTdtIN6tF7FUQt3kqIC7SJ4ac72GBB4eCveu kI+57QQqC5/+GCRt0Nd1gmxrrWO113CRKbkoRZhFwZgoYOJA76eEfZKnvAKlNtAU /t1KR3WQic9HBxOu25GnXRPatosibBNF7eY3GTkbxaA/rqjbuOZoGAs78ay+/ehN GiKoWjR3ibapxbPjYu8rwaY0yyaNPuLIIEKDT/OjwaMFpRpsNzQOSXZ9rz2mFhdp TvHztPe3eiKGhdBVf7MOac3t7QXCTzXNyu5SrNh1tOEvE1UNWS1CeNtp3CNy6Z6g xhXb/g2gChFFhk7pMQYUUv+cYnefrPZVuTypWz1bkgylpe51bCPyMtUKaTybfv5S bFafeFvylCfzzQjMgUOC+Yd374WqJ2jfmgLWSmVtgwFKmEwCfznyOMNcQfOY0/u8 Yzw19mrFza0E8HrB5beAacij2LEZ4ZlbANHdm23hA2lzvoHMZaq+itEnEdYUO5xL SJW9lYWWsJXbwB7Q6S9a =OD1b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_CD304ECD-2107-4E7F-90CF-42279D5C9D2F--