X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0DA31B3B-2C1D-459A-B2F6-D6BE6246191D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Pin mapping (separate symbols from mappings) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <20151019012429.9a5cc11d1e725a11d8add299@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 17:43:51 -0600 Message-Id: <9815DCAD-3940-49C4-A783-79B6891C492D@noqsi.com> References: <20151018204010 DOT 9cce6a231dcc296256e187bd AT gmail DOT com> <201510181843 DOT t9IIhmWo025346 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151018234424 DOT c0551dad9bef0859130239d9 AT gmail DOT com> <36B94694-F2AC-4A75-A8EB-40A1CE9A534C AT noqsi DOT com> <201510182225 DOT t9IMPkxK032763 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151019003814 DOT f62620bf0fec77e65104c105 AT gmail DOT com> <20151019012429 DOT 9a5cc11d1e725a11d8add299 AT gmail DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_0DA31B3B-2C1D-459A-B2F6-D6BE6246191D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Nicklas Karlsson = (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = wrote: >> On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Nicklas Karlsson = (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] = wrote: >>=20 >>>>> In my opinion, geda-gaf must remain neutral with respect to the >>>>> specifics of the downstream flow. >>>>=20 >>>> If we added a tool that sat between gschem and that >>>> "heavified" symbols, would that tool be part of geda-gaf and thus = have >>>> to be neutral about , or would that tool not be, and = thus >>>> something geda-gaf would have to be neutral about? >>>=20 >>> It depends on if there need to be feedback. I guess manufacturer = part number do not need feed back. Revision number from for example = subversion or other would however be useful. Pin numbers? >>>=20 >>=20 >> Feedback is perfectly reasonable if done in a tool-neutral way. For = manual topology feedback from Osmond PCB, I have a script that compares = the gnetlist output with the Osmond as-built netlist. If we defined a = format for importing this data into geda-gaf, each downstream flow could = provide such a script. >>=20 >> One geda-gaf issue is that the fundamental pin ID is = refdes/pinnumber, confused a bit by slotting. That would be very hard to = change, but I think mapping (original refdes)/(original pinnumber) to = (as-built refdes)/(as-built pinnumber) is possible. >>=20 >> John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. >> http://www.noqsi.com/ >> jpd AT noqsi DOT com >=20 > Gnetlist can generate a netlist from a *.sch file. A tool running the = other direction from netlist to gschem should also be posibble, this = tool can also do the pin mapping if this is a suitable method to solve = the problem. If there are no synchronization problem to update the *.sch = file while it is open in gschem this could be a suitable method. If you want to work backward. But for me, it makes more sense to work = forward: (ideal schematic)->(layout)->(as-built schematic). >=20 > Nicklas Karlsson >=20 John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_0DA31B3B-2C1D-459A-B2F6-D6BE6246191D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWJC64AAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRUbwP/1q/50w28Yp/YW8aZz2xaGb8 Vzwp9j76dKBPPKIOMjqAKLGj4FjFwERscAljqGKbfW8G6sdKKs0tacocAUh6Vo5/ Vu7WTsKykbhxU7Bg+fJ5kF0oEzaNqJaJywa1uwl1VMfQ48lZfT9gRxEMv+j1Cdx4 rOadxwrcx3L3oRtVcZ4//5Oh0DSJDH03K07rTg0aiyyvAznLiMU9b8yKkAoV3pj/ XZuSQJpnpPcp3klPDiT+7rfWp3TIhYoujZWqZU4kf7TiFTiFS44OwPrsN7v/OZU1 Ho0sZN/fAi4e43ACFOp6CK9PY6cJjRx2HPX+wV1ygyxUTyGYYPMJfuv2yE5ATxIJ GX41Rf+Es4dK5NWKW88SwasdkKrSGRi78V2MoCTxITYLSLDWyCslXy4jm7SpixXh L3EQdccRhaPrVcQxFzp20NjGitLVD8X14VqWW4q61fnOnKM0KHpwOF9vh4RnnaCI rbh9/0ifvENK6pdXI/3FZn1YP85el5Doi1fyeLQkfh7eA8tRyHrXFVofzuYA3p6Z Bouo+qXcNsHCEW9vRrni2IUjswo0avxFZrqNB2oeILUjvCKUztbZL7nY74qDIX65 y/VI7QwcXZcc6XvakUKw6otI0vh+74kwYUjrAGaeJn9yXEuLRnzLtPnA6Kxgvl0M IPMTpGKykunZvcBSpQLf =7y1+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_0DA31B3B-2C1D-459A-B2F6-D6BE6246191D--