X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9iWQrJpCE93jQFUC+whHk0x7f63N7myPEO9nW1PcM/U=; b=ekN0gPq8HBklsv5bRB50fawjM0YW9nBLRaal81l3n4BuQ/m6D00llhgHYI1ESdbHNu ESTXhz0vdZIclWxi/OTZQN114K506vrxwbuBdFQJo19FRVo53YAxBwwyEXsAgIoBnK4N t6VFM2og7sVKytI0yJwKD0UON6bYMUlnykqNjx9/8zktTJn7J9nF+QRuIBVgPqDTz3Qt uguwcseTHSTtpdPiBtdvM9qJ8gdYDnfDR2n7JQS0sjHUAjkOsLpM2qPHtHE+6zr+LfNW KBpQ+5UCTUnGbr4x2qE36jdTluyHJXIDk6SdU3pXlTrW1VTk9eB1ntY/XoRQQ7Gz16C0 aBcQ== X-Received: by 10.180.102.169 with SMTP id fp9mr17975475wib.29.1445210674119; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 01:24:29 +0200 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Pin mapping (separate symbols from mappings) Message-Id: <20151019012429.9a5cc11d1e725a11d8add299@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20151018204010 DOT 9cce6a231dcc296256e187bd AT gmail DOT com> <201510181843 DOT t9IIhmWo025346 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151018234424 DOT c0551dad9bef0859130239d9 AT gmail DOT com> <36B94694-F2AC-4A75-A8EB-40A1CE9A534C AT noqsi DOT com> <201510182225 DOT t9IMPkxK032763 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151019003814 DOT f62620bf0fec77e65104c105 AT gmail DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > >>> In my opinion, geda-gaf must remain neutral with respect to the > >>> specifics of the downstream flow. > >> > >> If we added a tool that sat between gschem and that > >> "heavified" symbols, would that tool be part of geda-gaf and thus have > >> to be neutral about , or would that tool not be, and thus > >> something geda-gaf would have to be neutral about? > > > > It depends on if there need to be feedback. I guess manufacturer part number do not need feed back. Revision number from for example subversion or other would however be useful. Pin numbers? > > > > Feedback is perfectly reasonable if done in a tool-neutral way. For manual topology feedback from Osmond PCB, I have a script that compares the gnetlist output with the Osmond as-built netlist. If we defined a format for importing this data into geda-gaf, each downstream flow could provide such a script. > > One geda-gaf issue is that the fundamental pin ID is refdes/pinnumber, confused a bit by slotting. That would be very hard to change, but I think mapping (original refdes)/(original pinnumber) to (as-built refdes)/(as-built pinnumber) is possible. > > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > http://www.noqsi.com/ > jpd AT noqsi DOT com Gnetlist can generate a netlist from a *.sch file. A tool running the other direction from netlist to gschem should also be posibble, this tool can also do the pin mapping if this is a suitable method to solve the problem. If there are no synchronization problem to update the *.sch file while it is open in gschem this could be a suitable method. Nicklas Karlsson