X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <1444322314.1005.51.camel@ssalewski.de> Subject: Re: [geda-user] GTK3, Glade interface designer (router, auto?) From: Stefan Salewski To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:38:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1443975731 DOT 671 DOT 52 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20151004191717 DOT bf8223417541a9306bfbd9ea AT gmail DOT com> <1443997480 DOT 2068 DOT 32 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <1444070851 DOT 1014 DOT 20 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20151007135719 DOT 10977 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20151007161001 DOT 21379 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <1444313402 DOT 1005 DOT 34 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 11:49 -0400, Marvin Dickens (mpdickens AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > I use gEDA for commercial purposes. Regarding ordinary users, the majority > of developers on this list totally ignore us. Maybe the few commercial users ignore the developers? I was really surprised a few months ago when someone wrote that he is using gEDA/PCB commercial. From commercial users I would expect some active support, that can be active support for other users, promotion, or maybe financial donations for developers. > This is nothing new - It has > been the dynamic for years and personally, I do not expect this aspect to > change. The difference between me and HUNDREDS of users over the last 10 > years is I have managed to figure out how to use the tools without asking > for help. Say what you will, this list is not user friendly. Flame me for > stating the facts... It was my feeling that people on this list really tried to help with user questions. Maybe I missed a lot, I had not the time to really follow the list traffic when it was really noisy. But often I saw user questions and people like DJ or Kai_Martin and others really trying to help. Of course developers can not start coding whenever something works not as a user desires :-) Do you know the gtk list? That is one of the really problematic lists. Only one GTK core developer seems to be still subscribed, so chances for getting informations is really not good. There are a few open questions currently again. There is IRC and a forum also, but I was told that there is not better support. That is really sad.