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On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 22:00 +0300, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Ugly for example is, that menu still offers actions
> > which are not available in current state.
> Could you name them?

There are many for gschem 1.9.1. For example select a line. Then in Edit
Menu menu item Edit... in not greyed out to show that it is not
available. I have often selected that thinking that I can change width
or other properties. There is much more of this. I know that it not easy
to avoid such behaviour, and for power users it is not a big problem,
they know that. For people who do use it maybe once per year it is not
that nice. But the most important point: It shows that there is no love
and care in gschem development. For a tool that is nearly 20 years old,
and where many people spent thousands of hours in development, there is
no really excuse for that. And when you say patches welcome: For such
points, which are really easy to fix for current active developers, I am
not willing to provide patches. Maybe I even would, if I could be
absolutely sure that the patch really made it into the program. But I
can not be sure.

Another point: In older gschem, when saving symbols it was necessary to
move it to origin before saving. I forgot it multiple times, resulting
in misaligned symbols, not really easy to fix for non experts. That was
discussed on the list many years ago. Trivial to fix for someone
familiar with the code. I think it was not fixed in 1.8, maybe it is
now.