X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IDrIN7fZ0jIqoJUjFDMptDNNK9Jzm1rQ92DnYjut5r8=; b=uZJ2y4jxgvwhHm8zpGaBmAPvfnziQ3/vzY51feoWMWq4PsZsZNbgOLv8OH1RbE7QGO FClw5bV9847zTWz45oi7pDheOYVKmrBGs4NUdngKM6lYUOGuxC/tXrnhtdE8/S4TIP91 2kry6TkFXzvNCNvsvXWsJZ3vRTO6EP6D2MiHm6m1ohvX5hsqpsrB5VrMLEFdUxd7NWzU MfT0GWEvB8AjYk4tn0aPDaE+dc4aKadmyyOHKo8E7qOHrxQu4Ovp8P0Xl4d6rAH5FB/i 7U0n1rFbxV+mcGbuce/I1Nzs7GvwEieGkwclLdFRj6bZzJlsnzaW7e/hDQtfSpfLJG9o j2sA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.213.12 with SMTP id m12mr592187lfg.74.1444231883890; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 08:31:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20151007144705.14981.qmail@stuge.se> References: <5BF9C4DF-32C7-4C06-9F96-8F82C935254E AT sbcglobal DOT net> <560EAEE1 DOT 6020701 AT jump-ing DOT de> <3E72AC35-5862-41B9-A8FD-6804E89E9FFB AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20151003210144 DOT GA21262 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <56104E16 DOT 3050006 AT jump-ing DOT de> <20151003222928 DOT GC4287 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20151007134152 DOT 9597 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20151007144705 DOT 14981 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 11:31:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Toolkits From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> >> Yes, I think GTK is a bad idea long term (for any application) >> > >> > Essentially you're saying that you would like a toolkit with a >> > lifetime of "forever" - which I can understand, but I also think >> > it is a bit unreasonable. The world changes and our software will >> > need to change with it. Not much, but some, every now and then. >> >> What is the value of doing a version bump that adds no functionality >> every time GTK issues a major release? > > No value, and no reason, as long as the version we use still works > and is generally available. I expect that it will be for a long time. Exactly. Not having to burn time on GTK version bumps that add nothing but a higher rev number is a good thing. As long as SDL is maintained in the long run and delivers all the needed functionality it makes sense. It lets us concentrate on what matters. >> Most of their new functionality we have no real use for in geda. >> (PCB is another story.) > > At some point, being "modern" is a very important value. If it adds no functionality why not just rerelease it with a higher version number? >> > Yes. Did you look into fltk and solvespace? >> >> Solvespace is not a good candidate. > > Solvespace is completely unrelated to gEDA and pcb, but it is an > interesting data point with regard to toolkit use and UI construction. > > I haven't used it enough to say that everything it does in its UI is bad. I dislike it for other reasons. > > //Peter -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/