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On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak
<knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de> wrote:
> gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>
>>> If you prefer bugs fixed not only using a different bug tracker, but in
>>> an entire code fork, please join Igor2, Peter Clifton, Stefan Salewski,
>>> ... oh, wait, all these people don't want to join anybody. Too bad.
>>
>> That is a lie.
>
> Can we agree to calm the tone down a little bit, please?

+1

>
>> I love to work in team and I'm open to join teams. When I have a project
>> set up I am open to anyone joining it. I did not attempt join the
>> official geda team because I felt like they were doing things in the
>> wrong way.
>
> Well, seen from a distance, this is just what Markus wrote. You did not
> feel like joining the "official geda team". You sure have your reasons.
> And you surely are not alone. There is no need to feel insulted.

I beg your pardon but I remember when Igor2 tried and the mainline
people drove him off.

>> I still think both the management and a lot of coding aspects
>> are going in the wrong way. It's my personal opinion. I don't want to
>> change their ways,
>
> There is an alternative consequence: Namely the desire to actually change
> the way the project is run. IMHO, both positions have their merits. Let's
> not call out each other on this.

+1

>> but I don't want the better way not to happen, so I
>> made a _proper_ fork.
>
> While you technically forked the code. You still did not go all the way.
> That would have included complete separation of website, communication
> channels and mailing list, wiki, library-site, and whatnot. Instead, you
> still mess with the rest of us here in regular geda-user.

We should be thankful for that. Igor2 tagged all of the stuff in his
SVN repo to make moving back annotation in gschem over to the mainline
more simplistic. I would call that participation. He is here trying to
be constructive. I also have yet to see him pick a fight. The same can
not be said for other parties.

> This sends ambiguous messages. But it is totally ok, too. Just accept that
> not everybody may cheer for your way. And after all, there are vastly more
> than one way to do things. No need to get emotional about.

That is not what this is about.

>> About my project not open to other people joining:
>
> Hmm. I did not see anyone say anything about this direction.

I have.

> Peace.
>
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