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Am 02.10.2015 um 01:06 schrieb DJ Delorie:
>> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers
>>
>> You can trust your eyes, they have 541 members. Five hundred and
>> fourty-one. So far I'm not aware of a disaster over there.
> 
> That is not an admin group.

As far as I can see it's their only Launchpad team, there is no "KiCAD
Administrators".

> Do we need more groups?

As you ask me: gEDA needs fewer groups. Especially this "Administrators"
group is pointless. Ideally there'd be one group for all parts of gEDA.


I'm aware you likely disagree with me on this one, but for me there is
no such thing like "ownership" in an open source collaborative project.
If there are owners at all, it's everybody contributing. As soon as one
tries to kind of take over this ownership from the owners, these owners
( = contributors) walk away.


> If you'd like us to have a geda users launchpad thing for everyone and
> their grandmother to participate in, let's talk about that.  Just
> don't call it an admin team (because it isn't) and lets talk about it
> before creating it.

Excellent! Invitation happily accepted.


For other list readers and regarding Launchpad teams in general: being
an owner of such a team brings almost no more privileges than a single
user account: one can change these texts on top of the team page, one
can open a bug tracker and edit the texts shown there, one can upload
the icons, and that's pretty much all of it. The only exception is the
obvious thing needed for a team: one can accept members. There's no
connection to the Git repository, so no risk there. One also can't
prohibit people from filing bugs or commenting on existing bugs.
Needless to say, such kind of controls were pointless anyways. To sum
up, such an "admin" team is almost a hoax.

Founding gEDAhead had only three reasons: to allow a team-owned PPA, to
make very clear that contributors are welcome and to allow people
contributing. In this regard I consider it to be successful.


Markus

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