X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=mail.ud03.udmedia.de; h= subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=beta; bh= rT71I4lD/3jqViMgeAReZxkeTXqFZg09U4aiaofvsO4=; b=RcE+hI6TqphDQ1NY cIqJa1JBbPW8an56B4Cp7bEdwCqG/XLtK9ExjC0sB0dXN38dLXqDJNyWJydovQUZ 9Q5oe2pGLzB2WsTU63rYmfD7gd9MM9jw1H0AQ+zTj2ptReHe49ev8Y0y2Zla9hgG g7Jg4hBbXYg1+kaiLlyMCamOkLQ= Subject: Re: [Geda-developers] PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <20150917043146 DOT GA1837 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20150917142035 DOT GA5896 AT localhost DOT localdomain> From: "Markus Hitter (mah AT jump-ing DOT de) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Message-ID: <56018A8B.6010000@jump-ing.de> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:06:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Am 22.09.2015 um 18:10 schrieb Roland Lutz: > there are basically two options: merge everything, or decline > everything. I'm not a fan of either. Only the "accept everything" of these two allows natural selection: may the better one win. Disk space isn't an issue these days, so there's no problem to have five tools doing the same, as long as lazy people (newbies!) get their job done. > Until now, I don't > know of a single person who actually tried the Xorn netlister, and only > of one person who looked at the code. If you ask me, that's the core > problem with gEDA development right now. That's not a gEDA problem, that's a general problem. People currently have an extremely strong tendency to rewrite everything from scratch instead of looking at and improving what's already there. As you did yourself. With everybody trying to rewrite from scratch, who's left to review all this written code? Right: nobody. The only chance to get Xorn reception is to enhance the experience of users. Like fewer clicks for newbie-type users, like more options for experts, like solving problems which were unresolvable before. Seen in this light, Xorn is only 50% finished so far. Markus -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/