X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LUz/6OBqvWD71VhClB02n9XoEOSnVm2073uziL3+X98=; b=GU44cODj8+IxjYlnMJ1pHVm7kkZJxFrDQh5Fr8VRNOT7wAh26L1BSUZpI3+cR0Z60F jf7T7kgRphsBXqxwgJ+TNA6iT6XDGMB74tnDx3UeHjf3Dw8OL5ipUIYJ267pKjnC6czF 6It3xUAPwRIm0mDbzPoU0BXepZ/h5PpfCCQ0EfAsCRQoAL43Aqq689+WVaqALBNa9NwO 7ah9X6uaZJf7O7V/gC6i/rahez6R5pbpJxH371ydjX5vr4OplFgyENyyKDsXiBz0HDL6 gwztNar4j9ZUesui9Z/nT/K/8xgiQOd5JpAf6Uhn8DlUrDU8R+X6gfePmmT527vZyx7U QM3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.77.197 with SMTP id u5mr30503344lbw.120.1442454803250; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 18:53:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201509170130.t8H1UnMI003657@envy.delorie.com> References: <201509132148 DOT t8DLmxI6003481 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201509132300 DOT t8DN0sE6006134 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <7EF3E562-BC7F-4853-B90A-29726FDFEBF6 AT noqsi DOT com> <201509132319 DOT t8DNJBjC006829 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <40057B48-2FD4-4A37-A01E-9344F6C33ADF AT noqsi DOT com> <201509140138 DOT t8E1cqY1011780 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <9YS.JVf3.4bTQ}uiaVeU DOT 1LzcJP AT seznam DOT cz> <20150916121330 DOT GA2687 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <201509170130 DOT t8H1UnMI003657 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:53:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 1:30 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Unless I missed something, it started with DJ being bold and single >> handedly lower several barriers. > > A boldness born out of desperation I fear. Nothing was getting done > because developers were, for various reasons, leaving the project. > Getting new developers means taking risks with new procedures as well > as trying to avoid the problems of the past. > >> > Also I was not a very viable candidate back then, >> >> Even so, users motivated to contribute but still beginners when it comes >> to coding should not be fended off. They should be encouraged to stay, >> shown the ropes and learn. People grow on the task. :-) > > There is still a progression each developer must follow - starting > with the smallest of contributions and working their way up to various > levels of trust. This is not unique to us, although the distrust of > the process seems to be. For trust and moving up the ranks of the team and trust yes. When it comes to taking on projects I don't think lack of experience should be an issue. That might have played into what drove Igor2 off. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/