X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NBsiy7fcICN+Pi3wkZ4Ot+0R936/g5RQJLKubggmwIM=; b=EOUihOEJoYBXkZT8JXJHvRX4LpBcdjOv5Kti6d2J20804OihLPYqcOhPG9DzvL6UZs VkMIepi8GnD1penWh/tVmUr57UR4qCjKrGKeXDeMi75T3z1NMZ4d5YvwWK6zHV0XY9ex hA+SUvF+ao8qN43v9RPwJblBEBQk/t5KA0GfS0woCDVX7NFC3FDmDQ5urUaYH+vaKjB+ dX/k9P9qyh/6RFKvUNEyysMTPc0Oc386qVWdmcPCgDV72IeenBxmFsgGa8+q97YxuVBA 3vE6tFELfUT5GnKLeO96vNqYE9UN5p4HUfF4raTRMhXnoUlmbBDLcej4aEU+ey2rc89C 6XUA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.149.68 with SMTP id ty4mr31924339lbb.74.1442448639922; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:10:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201509132148 DOT t8DLmxI6003481 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201509132300 DOT t8DN0sE6006134 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <7EF3E562-BC7F-4853-B90A-29726FDFEBF6 AT noqsi DOT com> <201509132319 DOT t8DNJBjC006829 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <40057B48-2FD4-4A37-A01E-9344F6C33ADF AT noqsi DOT com> <201509140138 DOT t8E1cqY1011780 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <9YS.JVf3.4bTQ}uiaVeU DOT 1LzcJP AT seznam DOT cz> <20150916121330 DOT GA2687 AT localhost DOT localdomain> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 00:10:39 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >>> 2. Not everyone who should be is on the developers list is because >>> some folks wanted to play gate keeper. This killed off trolling and >> Please tell me privately whom you want to see on the developer list. > > Decision making in private, i.e with no communication to the general > public, was the way to run all things geda since at least 2009. It seems > plausible, that this contributed to drive the project into the sad state > which it currently is. Make people feel not involved and they tend to walk > away where they feel more welcome. > Note, I am not lobbying to hold general votes. The keyword above is > communication. Oh yea Igor2 and I both got ticked off back in the day about that lists formation. I joined and got some crass emails privately for daring to apply. He was just out right excluded possibly unintentionally. That was about when I gave up too. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/