X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q+179X54NhN+HcfNtFlCLTQU0Lr8epkbs4BIzDPz2Xw=; b=dM/kbrsPHefE9YLptmjxAsspmy1q3d5LIPUj2wgcF9nGWgYxaqXmBb+b+0kWr94dVx ctlhQ0PSt2LrdV3jQSiWXD7LuYmLEJWbE2xVT2DP/HUoijJqWrPMz3j59LLNMINCPZd0 TiaO63s9Wdg3DBttjmIlVPaH/h7bV3kaOYvefScDS6W74ZZpry6dQ/gTR/57kIihe+4a Xjwqnsb34TUAwwYFfMivxpJ6MHiJKAF5j3NWARc0YaAxJprwiuekPtnmo3Vd9ow8VmpA hzi0z2JRgjjbIj4kfMD5af0Xf/OKOKz0Kbqxg+COpwpyQpezVd+yyV4z23ktiTz/KHka AfBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.149.68 with SMTP id ty4mr30826809lbb.74.1442430851161; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:14:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201509161905.t8GJ5MVY011855@envy.delorie.com> References: <55F5EFB6 DOT 6050809 AT ecosensory DOT com> <20150914100244 DOT 4c371d64616a1ca14f7e3912 AT gmail DOT com> <201509161753 DOT t8GHr83L007994 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201509161846 DOT t8GIk6Dm010388 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201509161905 DOT t8GJ5MVY011855 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:14:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] off-topic: key bindings From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:05 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Respectfully that is a little condescending to the users. They may >> have come from xyz commercial suite and have bindings they like. We >> don't try to tell people which workflow to use. Likewise we should >> leave them to their key bindings. Our job is to make the tool great >> not to save people from themselves. > > And likely that xyz company had a group of specialists choosing the > hotkeys to maximize performance. My point wasn't "we should force > them to use our bindings" it was "we shouldn't expect them to know how > to set up bindings from scratch" and "we shouldn't expect the users to > have to learn new keybindings just because we changed our minds" Ok sorry I did not read it that way. > We haven't changed out keybindings because our users are used to them. > PCB did add a way to change the keybindings if you wanted different > ones, but we left the defaults alone. If a user wants to fiddle, they > can fiddle. Ok I forgot that PCB had that. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/