X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A5Vu96TQZoMe3w/6g3MGU6Ba904EL98jtbGRJQue64g=; b=lTleMoph/lQnn0tM7jYc8kn4/MCh1fn9/ebAjdq06jg8BkTJ7CN/EasEeft6N01nBr nciJOimM0mL5Sm9AQ8Thd5HZGdIkIsgRjb2BlPUNbz/xa5TgfyBqM9elFaDYao3MRXXV nSDfhJ1L35IvvSIJTqwkWPE1QbQriSwsqGDOVvDw7pVqpIfFnC14LXENbHDEJrzVmaJ2 CussdzOyUbV3cOqoP8YpzuKbaXvbTmnEq/R0W1gptKs/12OJqB/xBvmx3lZDJZt/UbhX jG43uKu/QcqaiK2W4SdhuvULovf32V3+SVimDe6HJUBWC+yWd2inXZR+pEkYX3bNDl1A 2fxQ== X-Received: by 10.194.104.39 with SMTP id gb7mr25668587wjb.150.1442217769595; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 01:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:02:44 +0200 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] off-topic: key bindings Message-Id: <20150914100244.4c371d64616a1ca14f7e3912@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <55F5EFB6 DOT 6050809 AT ecosensory DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk There will be no conflict to enable both "f s" and ctrl+s for saving at the same time. ctrl+character make sense in an editor since both hands are on the keyboard while hotkey make sense while using the mouse since one hand is handling the mouse. Nicklas Karlsson > > On 09/13/2015 05:17 AM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > >> 1. if the first key is with a modifier, it is a single-stroke hotkey (e.g. > >> ctrl+z or ctrl+s) > >> > >> 2. if the first key is not alnum, it is a single-stroke hotkey (e.g. arrow > >> keys, escape, F1, enter, etc.) > >> > >> 3. if the first key is alnum without a modifier, it's the first character of > >> a multi-stroke command > >> > >> Rule 3 removes 36 keys from the single-stroke world but makes it possible to > >> use best of both worlds without collision. > >> > >> Any thoughts/feedback are welcome. > > > > It's not compatible with good layout hotkey uses. In that case one uses the > > Incompatible? Which part exactly? > > > right hand on mouse, left on keyboard, > > or vice versa if they are left handed. > > > > I'd rather lose the whole 2 stroke keybinding set in > > gschem and convert to hotkeys. > > Did you notice that I was talking about how to support both, in a > compatible, non-switching way? That was the only point of my question. > > I probably used the wrong wording because everybody missed it.