X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G40JbrbQLz3c+acSJQ1dQ9ONPIeKOgK6ph6wDh5x5lQ=; b=0znuN3IKn9NZ2+62Q17iGuKWlRweZMhc4uXoCo0/2Cmo7ieVm3IG4ZR9045xQAEI5y eDf8kY/Qi7faGGZm4Tm2MEyqKqhqjnTKH1xxn0IdY8wPI6fxw+AdPdF7fnnz/nn3wmHr vAwNkWax9uPkVwwr92MylAkSTpVMmugLhrEYU/P5JXlugeFhJ/uE8mkG5d3BJtX6uZv7 EkgxW+0gEmwu9d9qvRx2i2n7Tdvg/VldMwYZrJysnWj85EDdCqONx0DEQ7ZzKgU0AUH3 msP3a4TPgIiD8eewXH4M2NymklzoAvEMOdFLmqgFTY/WdhBCahUzjD1Hkr8fZ5nnZnv5 521g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.5.71 with SMTP id q7mr1830714laq.92.1442026944629; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 20:02:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2A3C754B-B26E-4815-B9B6-B36EEFC86ABF@noqsi.com> References: <201509111624 DOT t8BGOPYV000685 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201509111732 DOT t8BHWnF7005271 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <960028A6-F16B-4276-B838-E9F0D2959A6F AT noqsi DOT com> <201509111823 DOT t8BINSFw007278 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <2A3C754B-B26E-4815-B9B6-B36EEFC86ABF AT noqsi DOT com> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:02:24 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] About reinventing the wheel, and how to avoid it From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t8C32Uc0006265 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 1:21 AM, John Doty wrote: > > On Sep 11, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >> Sorry but I find the negativity here to be a real turn off. > > Most ideas are bad. Edison patented a lot of useless things, including his magnetic ore separator which he also wasted a fortune developing. Einstein was wrong more than half the time. Bad ideas are the cost of good ideas. Without critical review, bad ideas get implemented. I work for a basic science lab. I have spent a lot of time on devices that are often used for 10mins in some ones experiment and then thrown in a bin because someone realized the avenue they were looking down was wrong. I saw some mail go by to the effect of "Be quite your not a user", "Your rejecting new users" and so on. These are not only of zero technical merit but they are really just personal attacks meant to drive people out of the conversation. It feels like people are not debating ideas but revisiting old grudges. It is like a nerdy version of that movie "Grumpy Old Men" only with out any comic aspects. To be fair the thread got more positive the farther down I went. I spoke to quickly. Sorry. > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > http://www.noqsi.com/ > jpd AT noqsi DOT com > > > -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/