X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MRrdGmutaphleV2vFee6l8NGIfNUaO4kiuFghWt+WY0=; b=nNCBsLnzNvMgZ/cpSGebDYfsAZSwwGaesKXD502d4NGkA01fkjDImH4bGy9y/TQ2DP Vjhwp1qWJIhgfJ7i9CdA7I1RtyORDYvqZ9x/Ry3C7MLlPeBZqp/BgBI4rnzMDUY2YA16 zjCSgtV15uPsKJLkB0Zk6uPpVjnM4lMkrYuwh1ban5Wq/MBEPoLBj66s5kKpU1G228xd sDoGbxlhN8FPeg7L2WHLTVfSkh5KMM/LAYdNohG84MDg4xIb49neutlYZrpZsxNS1gyi fuIOBkD/yJlJGMVS7aVdvHR29s19u+ls1t5v6vo4v7ORZXrJmHZYNlNNcDNB6pe8TJPH Ntow== X-Received: by 10.194.122.132 with SMTP id ls4mr1242831wjb.130.1442004962811; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 13:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:55:58 +0200 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] About reinventing the wheel, and how to avoid it Message-Id: <20150911225558.bc2e1c16763f445fa04c3e5d@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201509112038.t8BKc3GP013110@envy.delorie.com> References: <201509111624 DOT t8BGOPYV000685 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20150911190224 DOT 5b50175919e00b91df2ccf53 AT gmail DOT com> <201509111707 DOT t8BH7kS8004233 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20150911222120 DOT e57a7e4dca6baabdbdf6287c AT gmail DOT com> <201509112038 DOT t8BKc3GP013110 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:38:03 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Even though you have to remember attributes and values yourself it > > is not just arbitrary text. For already defined attributes it would > > have been nice with a list to choose from and for each attribute a > > list of predefined values to chose from where appropriate. > > It's not "just arbitrary" because some other tool (typically gnetlist > for gschem) interprets the values. But as far as gschem itself is > concerned, aside from a few convenience pulldowns that provide > commonly used defaults, the text really is just arbitrary. > > If you were using gschem with something other than gnetlist, which had > a different interpretation of the text, it would still not be "just > arbitrary" to that other something, but not because gschem itself gave > it any meaning. > > Thus, my position that adding arbitrary text *in gschem* is not > difficult. > > The task is more difficult in something like pcb because the > attributes have meaning *to pcb*, and pcb usually has to interpret > them in realtime as the user is editing. It's the meaning that causes > the difficulty, not the attribute storage itself. The realitime > requirement often dictates a non-"arbitrary" internal storage as well. > > (this is similar to the XML "problem" - XML defines a structure for > storing information, but doesn't give any meaning to the information, > leading to lots of incompatible implementations) I agree.