X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] About reinventing the wheel, and how to avoid it From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201509111732.t8BHWnF7005271@envy.delorie.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:03:21 -0600 Message-Id: <960028A6-F16B-4276-B838-E9F0D2959A6F@noqsi.com> References: <201509111624 DOT t8BGOPYV000685 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201509111732 DOT t8BHWnF7005271 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t8BI3UvJ013971 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:32 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> I would think, given that you complain a great deal about how gEDA >> has trouble attracting users, that you might want to pay attention >> to what its problems are from an actual user's perspective. > > You have stated many times that you are not a PCB user. I do listen > to PCB users. So you don’t really want to attract new users: only existing users count. And then, you bemoan the fact that you can’t attract new users. And you blame the messenger. > What they ask for is not the same as what you think we > should be doing. Of course not: they’ve bought into the paradigm. The ones you want to attract are the ones who haven’t, and from where I sit it looks like they never will unless there’s a geda-layout whose design matches and complements geda-gaf. But you don’t want to hear that. On the other hand, three cheers for Roland, who has apparently made an even more flexible netlister for geda-gaf! But now, I have a request to collapse a three board stack down to one. Good thing I used pins2gsch.awk to enforce common naming of the nets connected to the stacking connectors, and use a toolkit that makes refdes munging pretty trivial... John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com