X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Desired changes (was:"New experimental netlist features") From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> In-Reply-To: <201509082033.t88KXsFZ005209@envy.delorie.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 18:10:19 -0600 Message-Id: <4E3F5251-AD22-445D-B41A-3E94FAF9F8B8@noqsi.com> References: <alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 11 DOT 1509031356150 DOT 13201 AT nimbus> <55E8773B DOT 9000902 AT jump-ing DOT de> <alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 11 DOT 1509031846370 DOT 7163 AT nimbus> <55E8831A DOT 8050307 AT jump-ing DOT de> <alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 11 DOT 1509032004020 DOT 10628 AT nimbus> <55E891FA DOT 2010509 AT jump-ing DOT de> <alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 11 DOT 1509032039300 DOT 14871 AT nimbus> <BC7E3E69-4914-4654-B020-1338C71E0CDB AT noqsi DOT com> <201509032030 DOT t83KU1Yq017045 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <55E97A3E DOT 2070402 AT jump-ing DOT de> <69B8B3F4-A6E4-43E9-9055-C63A5D6A3707 AT noqsi DOT com> <msfjma$340$1 AT ger DOT gmane DOT org> <alpine DOT DEB DOT 2 DOT 00 DOT 1509060518220 DOT 6924 AT igor2priv> <msidqe$66h$1 AT ger DOT gmane DOT org> <D2219618-B906-432B-B11A-C108DA9FCBF9 AT noqsi DOT com> <CAOP4iL3JkWC4Nuw8vDOBDR4Zk4OD2xwrMwHXp-ZihPom5Wmfwg AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <43CA04C5-47B7-4DA4-8005-3A2D4E9D0E47 AT noqsi DOT com> <20150908162514 DOT 43142577ec15e48c50950a18 AT gmail DOT com> <CD93E147-F22E-4CA2-9793-FAAA5558486D AT noqsi DOT com> <20150908182504 DOT 196a11571c68bc63ef8e4c27 AT gmail DOT com> <11875D68-7D82-48AB-8850-C5C3BCCF64EC AT noqsi DOT com> <201509081853 DOT t88IrAak001304 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <307FD65! ! 5-69A7-4486-B466-B5FB92CBB1C2 AT noqsi DOT com> <201509082033 DOT t88KXsFZ005209 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t890ASTq029918 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sep 8, 2015, at 2:33 PM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote: >> >> It's the cost of being able to do things that the developers never >> imagined. > > Yeah, I'm just saying we're seeing that cost now. But the alternative has its own costs. The single most common pattern of user query here is �How do I get pcb to draw [insert perfectly reasonable geometric object].� And the answer is usually �pcb can�t do that�. The cost of not giving users control is that you prevent them from doing what they need. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com