X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Desired changes (was:"New experimental netlist features") From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201509081853.t88IrAak001304@envy.delorie.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 13:52:20 -0600 Message-Id: <307FD655-69A7-4486-B466-B5FB92CBB1C2@noqsi.com> References: <55E8773B DOT 9000902 AT jump-ing DOT de> <55E8831A DOT 8050307 AT jump-ing DOT de> <55E891FA DOT 2010509 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201509032030 DOT t83KU1Yq017045 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <55E97A3E DOT 2070402 AT jump-ing DOT de> <69B8B3F4-A6E4-43E9-9055-C63A5D6A3707 AT noqsi DOT com> <43CA04C5-47B7-4DA4-8005-3A2D4E9D0E47 AT noqsi DOT com> <20150908162514 DOT 43142577ec15e48c50950a18 AT gmail DOT com> <20150908182504 DOT 196a11571c68bc63ef8e4c27 AT gmail DOT com> <11875D68-7D82-48AB-8850-C5C3BCCF64EC AT noqsi DOT com> <201509081853 DOT t88IrAak001304 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t88Jqt7T032731 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:53 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >>> For me it seems like a problem to never be allowed to change an old symbol without breaking schematics using them. >> >> Or to be able to remove old rusting symbols from the distributed library. > > Perhaps we're finally seeing the dark side of a toolkit approach - the > toolkit leaves too much of the management to the user? It’s the cost of being able to do things that the developers never imagined. There’s a role for integrated tools. I’m typing this on a MacOSX Mail. I don’t need a mail client to do anything Mail can’t, so its integrated, rather totalitarian approach to the job is perfect for me. But when the job is more complicated, and I need more flexibility, a toolkit makes the job possible. > >> And then, ngspice users want an ngspice-oriented library, pcb users >> want a pcb-oriented library, VHDL users want a VHDL-oriented >> library, etc. It seems to me that a project library management tool >> would be very useful. > > Yet another task that would fit into a proposed component database > manager? Or is this something that the other tools need to know > about? It’s a little different. I see the component database manager as an automated editing/annotation tool between schematic capture and the downstream simulation/layout/documentation flow. But up front, you may want a tool to select the subset of symbols to use for the project in the first place. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com