X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:45:07 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: igor2 AT igor2priv To: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" X-Debug: to=geda-user AT delorie DOT com from="gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" From: gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu Subject: Re: [geda-user] New experimental netlist features In-Reply-To: <20150906075211.GC2637@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: References: <55E97A3E DOT 2070402 AT jump-ing DOT de> <69B8B3F4-A6E4-43E9-9055-C63A5D6A3707 AT noqsi DOT com> <55E9BD63 DOT 8070407 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201509051930 DOT t85JUlTh019874 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20150905210158 DOT GC7185 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <201509052107 DOT t85L7sHL024299 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20150905213959 DOT GE7185 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <201509052353 DOT t85Nru1P030401 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20150906075211 DOT GC2637 AT localhost DOT localdomain> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Sep 2015, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > read all these curses on Scheme, I understand many of the unhappies did > not ever tried to read the doc we have and to write any small code > fragment. Just for the record: I did. The docs are fine, but scheme is painful. I did not give up and I did finish a gnetlist backend mini-project that actually works, and is written in scheme. It took many times more effort than it would have in almost any other common languages. As this was my third such lesson about scheme in different projects, it also taught me not to touch scheme ever again. > And every time this happens I feel less and less motivation to > do something in this direction, though I've some useful things written > in scheme and they help me much while working in gschem. I am sorry to hear you get demotivated. That shouldn't happen. If scheme is not to be removed, just declare it, and ignore all the scheme-hate mails. It's pretty clear that we won't convince you (or others who like scheme) that scheme is actually bad for us, non-schemers. The same way you won't convince us that scheme is a good thing. It's symmetrical. We should just accept this and move on, without anyone getting angry or demotivated. Regards, Igor2