X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] New experimental netlist features From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 09:44:19 -0600 Message-Id: References: <55E8773B DOT 9000902 AT jump-ing DOT de> <55E8831A DOT 8050307 AT jump-ing DOT de> <55E891FA DOT 2010509 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201509032030 DOT t83KU1Yq017045 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <55E97A3E DOT 2070402 AT jump-ing DOT de> <69B8B3F4-A6E4-43E9-9055-C63A5D6A3707 AT noqsi DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t84FiThx007600 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sep 4, 2015, at 9:08 AM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > I still remember when I started with electronics many years ago. I did look at different packages, and there were three things that got me settled with geda and pcb: > > - it was not integrated, but a set of specialized tools > > - it let me do the glue between the tools (I wanted to use make) > > - pcb file format looked like text editor friendly. I started using gEDA as schematic capture for ngspice (in 2002, maybe). Then, I found that gnetlist back ends were simple scripts. I could thus use it to export netlists to PH70, an obscure layout program from Lincoln Labs used by a layout contractor popular in MIT-associated circles. I did several projects with that flow. From there I moved to ASIC design (for Osaka University), exporting SPICE for both simulation and layout. The PH70 contractor retired, and the MIT business transitioned to Osmond PCB for layout, done in-house at MIT. Some of that then switched to layout contractors using Allegro and PADS. This went amazingly smoothly from my perspective, although if I had been LISP-phobic it wouldn’t have worked. gEDA is powerful and versatile! John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com