X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+TET5/89+KQS/gA437lyP+LLy48JVDVkPLsDF3tIZiY=; b=FzygsAbK5oyG9kYvNdA96AweqbR9PP/sYLsn5HZ4txyebBQ2Ra1lFrIW6K2iS3IJdY qS3+SCz4EQtEgFeah8THaJnteVvgx2PP4m8PU1EMpfzH0agVKEmOmju2butNeebvsD0M 2XMyfpcevUNGrt3AvBHU/AlAtXB7xX0NNL64vMK9jkkZXcBmTqcg7eCc0iykBm5Hfkh1 OGXj6taxq4AwEhIIVZ2U8duJCmH9ugMimikb4zve0o9ZlhDhSYEIiUrq/ss5UaVJLImR HstMlFQgSEM3rp/p/Fnwd+UR/Dx3ZV2oHn1egUK0upaE0W8OcclmfvOorzntk2rqTGht Pabw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmN3NXpBr+zHAv1m0PW0IhwTfsNtHrIMImB5WhUHggS+tGMN0iZjx6TTPERP7MDv8bv6BJq X-Received: by 10.152.5.2 with SMTP id o2mr2439249lao.105.1441355161838; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 01:26:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mjd AT hackvana DOT com X-Originating-IP: [60.240.119.74] In-Reply-To: <1509040703.AA09605@ivan.Harhan.ORG> References: <1509040703 DOT AA09605 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> From: "Mitch Davis (mjd+geda-user AT hackvana DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:25:42 +1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0Be_hZDiVYLyM4B6DdX7l94Vmo8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] [OT] looking for a PADS layout person To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d10066acb2b051ee7a699 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --089e013d10066acb2b051ee7a699 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Spacefalcon, (still OT) On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw < falcon AT ivan DOT harhan DOT org> wrote: > > deal with the nasty proprietary EDA tools out of necessity rather than > choice. > > needs to be done in PADS, because [gEDA] does not > currently support blind and buried vias There's a flaw in your logic (false dichotomy): Saying that it has to be done in PADS because gEDA can't do what you want, doesn't allow for options which are open source, but *will* do what you want. FWIW, KiCad supports blind and buried vias (and plated slots), and is open source. And it also has a mode where you can set the background to be an image, which you can then trace over when laying out the board. That image could be a bitmap of a board done in another tool. It's a useful tool when recovering designs done in older proprietary software. (Curiously enough, the Openmoko team, and in particular, Wolfgang Spraul, were quite keen on KiCad) Mitch. --089e013d10066acb2b051ee7a699 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Spacefalcon,

(still OT)

On Fri,= Sep 4, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw <falcon AT ivan DOT harhan DOT o= rg> wrote:

deal with th= e nasty proprietary EDA tools out of necessity rather than choice.

needs to be done in PADS, because [gEDA] does not
currently support blind and buried vias

There's a = flaw in your logic (false dichotomy): Saying that it has to be done in PADS= because gEDA can't do what you want, doesn't allow for options whi= ch are open source, but will do what you want.

FWIW, KiCad su= pports blind and buried vias (and plated slots), and is open source.=C2=A0 = And it also has a mode where you can set the background to be an image, whi= ch you can then trace over when laying out the board.=C2=A0 That image coul= d be a bitmap of a board done in another tool.=C2=A0 It's a useful tool= when recovering designs done in older proprietary software.=C2=A0 (Curious= ly enough, the Openmoko team, and in particular, Wolfgang Spraul, were quit= e keen on KiCad)

Mitch.
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