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Subject: Re: [geda-user] The new to do
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 07:22:04AM -0600, John Doty wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2015, at 6:28 AM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 09:06:56PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
>> > ...
>> >>> Anyway, the script for gschem is attached.
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately, it is all greek, err, guile to me. But good to see that
>> >> this kind of tasks can be tackled in current gschem.
>> >
>> > The guile syntax is simple enough, any function has the following form
>> >  (function-name arg1 arg2 …)
>>
>> Lisp is based on some very simple ideas. Scheme started out as a
>> simple, disciplined dialect of Lisp. Guile is a bloated, complex,
>> undisciplined implementation of Scheme. Almost 2000 defined symbols
>> before you load libraries or user code. The manual is almost 900
>> pages. The simple core is still there, but it’s hard to find through
>> all of the fog.
>
> This state of things is because of trying to support the new R6RS
> standard (and some of main Scheme distributions already support it
> completely [1]).
>
> However, R7RS tries to fix this breakage of simplicity by "splitting
> Scheme into two languanges" [2] one of which should be simple.
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheme_(programming_language)#R6RS
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheme_(programming_language)#R7RS

What a joke.  The lisp community makes it hopeless fragmentation
official.

Britton