X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rtcY92c016LiXetWih9sD3Yqu6t7bbD4VodyWLewJi8=; b=Fkm1jo7amagucz+GQYXHtirnQQ8ROey7sJSq2Wr22KB3ChT2vuI9aJqK+aAGt44cuv OpaQ+S1WcjEotnjXINlO5J3AHSUy1HdCqr+sM05meXyfM2nu9U3hFd4fdXso4b7FPIyH UeGAxAEuC5rgTDySkWOYlD5r2k856K4w3WDETFSb+WaoLl3xI6A/6BQyF9ySiJ/5W/Zu ul3BwAzp4HKEOOj+pDUQpjRuE0Uv4tZy7B1dcBjrBtwj06pfPSh9g9ePSXEXk07ipOZ9 EjLFX/cI9uvGyHwN6KIi2tivXmbCthDnqAmrst3ugGmAvMbjgeizpyfN57M6Mn9je96B ZCeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.179.87 with SMTP id c84mr5975653oif.110.1437631882238; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 23:11:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1507230516.AA05719@ivan.Harhan.ORG> References: <1507230516 DOT AA05719 AT ivan DOT Harhan DOT ORG> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:41:22 +0930 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Converting footprints from PADS to PCB From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cd1f4a8a066051b84c169 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --001a113cd1f4a8a066051b84c169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From what I can see, altium can import ascii PADS data, but not binary. There is a "read only"-ish free PADs viewer available - http://www.pads.com/downloads/pads-pcb-viewer/ gerbv supports svg export. dxf can be converted to kicad. kicad can be converted to PCB. I will experiment with the gerbers and see what is possible. The project looks interesting and gerber -> PCB layout is an itch that needs scratching. Regards, Erich. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw < falcon AT ivan DOT harhan DOT org> wrote: > Continuing on my quest to recapture the design of a classic GSM > cellphone in a FOSS EDA format... A few months ago the founder of > Openmoko released the original design files, including PCB layout, for > their legendary Neo Freerunner: > > ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/GTA02-MB-A6.zip > > Their PCB layout was done in PADS, and we have both the original PADS > file and the full set of gerbers made from it. I would like to reuse > a whole bunch of footprints from Openmoko's layout, as that layout > contains known good footprints for all of the core components needed > in a Calypso phone or modem. > > The problem is that PADS' *.pcb files are in a proprietary binary > format. :-( The good news is that we have the gerbers too, and one > can view them with gerbv, measure the dimensions of every aspect of > every footprint and recreate an equivalent footprint for our PCB - but > of course it would be a very tedious manual process. > > I wonder, would anyone here happen to know anything about PADS' format? > Was it perchance documented in some place accessible to mere mortals? > Or if I found someone with a working installation of PADS who could > open the layout file, does PADS perchance have some way to extract > elements from a complete PCB design and save them as reusable > footprints? Or perhaps a way to save the whole layout as ASCII instead > of binary - if it were ASCII, I could probably stare at it and figure > out the info I'm after... > > Has anyone ever succeeded in moving footprints from PADS into the FOSS > EDA world, be it our PCB or KiCAD? > > TIA, > SF > --001a113cd1f4a8a066051b84c169 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From what I can see, altium can import ascii PADS dat= a, but not binary.

=C2=A0

There is a "read only&qu= ot;-ish=C2=A0free PADs viewer available - http://www.pads.com/downloads/pads-pcb-viewer/

gerbv supports svg export. dxf can be converte= d to kicad. kicad can be converted to PCB.

I wil= l experiment with the gerbers and see what is possible.

The project looks interesting and gerber -> PCB layout is an itc= h that needs scratching.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Spacefalco= n the Outlaw <falcon AT ivan DOT harhan DOT org> wrote:
Continuing on my quest to recapture the design of a= classic GSM
cellphone in a FOSS EDA format...=C2=A0 A few months ago the founder of
Openmoko released the original design files, including PCB layout, for
their legendary Neo Freerunner:

ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/GTA02= -MB-A6.zip

Their PCB layout was done in PADS, and we have both the original PADS
file and the full set of gerbers made from it.=C2=A0 I would like to reuse<= br> a whole bunch of footprints from Openmoko's layout, as that layout
contains known good footprints for all of the core components needed
in a Calypso phone or modem.

The problem is that PADS' *.pcb files are in a proprietary binary
format. :-(=C2=A0 The good news is that we have the gerbers too, and one can view them with gerbv, measure the dimensions of every aspect of
every footprint and recreate an equivalent footprint for our PCB - but
of course it would be a very tedious manual process.

I wonder, would anyone here happen to know anything about PADS' format?=
Was it perchance documented in some place accessible to mere mortals?
Or if I found someone with a working installation of PADS who could
open the layout file, does PADS perchance have some way to extract
elements from a complete PCB design and save them as reusable
footprints?=C2=A0 Or perhaps a way to save the whole layout as ASCII instea= d
of binary - if it were ASCII, I could probably stare at it and figure
out the info I'm after...

Has anyone ever succeeded in moving footprints from PADS into the FOSS
EDA world, be it our PCB or KiCAD?

TIA,
SF

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