X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] My gschem 1.9.1 is breaking rubber bands From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201507220019.t6M0JFHM030424@envy.delorie.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:42:04 -0600 Message-Id: References: <1437430095 DOT 1321 DOT 17 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <3B92001A-596F-4595-9DD3-15AAD3C3B1FF AT noqsi DOT com> <1437494996 DOT 729 DOT 7 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <0C548460-0355-4EFF-9495-75DE7AD13A16 AT noqsi DOT com> <201507211821 DOT t6LILegK016798 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <55AE9814 DOT 4030702 AT ecosensory DOT com> <55AED575 DOT 9010702 AT ecosensory DOT com> <6D1A759F-0F14-4F04-8C20-AB0B8501AB63 AT noqsi DOT com> <201507220019 DOT t6M0JFHM030424 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t6M0gBcD027295 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Jul 21, 2015, at 6:19 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> But adding another feature is effectively doing nothing as far as >> most users are concerned, because we're not releasing the toolkit to >> packagers any more. Getting a 1.10 release out would *really* be >> doing something. > > Are you volunteering to be the release manager? I’d consider it, except that right now almost all of my work is with 1.8 and I don’t have enough confidence that I know exactly what’s what in 1.9. I think, however, that getting Peter Brett’s refactoring work out into the world would be a good thing. > > Otherwise, the project does what the people doing the work are > interested in, and telling someone you think they're wrong won't (and > shouldn't) change anything. Remember that I came from feature-loaded Viewlogic to cleaner, simpler gEDA. I don’t want to go back. > > Plus, telling someone that the work they want to do (likely for their > own benefit) is "effectively doing nothing" is very negative and > harmful. Please don't do it again. > >> And it's a bandaid, anyway. Rubberbanding *used* to work just >> fine. What added feature broke it? > > You're assuming some added feature caused the problem. It could have > been caused by an internal refactoring or some bugfix. Perhaps you > could triage this a bit and see if the change was intentional or not? There are parts of the code I understand well, but the rubberbanding is not in those parts. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com