X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 09:46:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Roland Lutz To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] The new to do In-Reply-To: <201507162046.t6GKkTlC028507@envy.delorie.com> Message-ID: References: <55A2A0A2 DOT 4080403 AT ecosensory DOT com> <7AE39440-DA68-4491-A965-C1B97D1D86C1 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712213152 DOT 7968b74c AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <304D9D86-3CF6-4D61-A5CA-6CE414EA0661 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712224637 DOT 2d4cc2de AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <55A2E9B7 DOT 9040502 AT neurotica DOT com> <201507162046 DOT t6GKkTlC028507 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (DEB 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, DJ Delorie wrote: > I have a friend who's a Windows programmer, and he says *none* of them > are 'native' enough to count as such. The point being, they aren't native because they are toolkits. Even if they replicated the proprietary GUI exactly (which they propably can't because it's copyrighted), they would be outdated with the next version. In order to achieve a truly "native" appearance, you'll have to write a dedicated HID using the platform's API. There have been a few attempts to short-cut this (for example, this was one of the selling points of Qt), but my in experience, this tends to just complicate things and still not feel actually native. When comparing the goals "PCB runs under Windows" and "PCB looks really nice under Windows", I'd go with the former if the latter additionally complicates things. I wouldn't oppose a native Windows HID, though, if someone volunteered to write one. There has been an interesting (German) article about a similar problem with Darktable a few days ago: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Open-Source-Rawkonverter-Darktable-Windows-Version-scheitert-an-mangelnder-Initiative-2750592.html Roland