X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=evPTXs1Ti6/6Y0iReYFgRqDOfZ6/ke/pkxP8C0nffWA=; b=akj28tZfZaArTO4WTUrja2vZH12vFVYvxhQ15D1TpeBIARtXNnaEWr12gKIW7z6rEI Bzp1NFbeu0Ae9HujEdpjGP+lRVVD/C0vYjvtMfpfZPX3cXPtpdX6uGyA6jIejunEnJhB bi0hVIAGEImKe+t6BsyuK14De+n2Q+9oMSp0gQdeWsFN4L5aFJ+s4U0mcpuQZ+3VmRHX R7pvkpLnWrr8xWecEk3ISdg1BXTKgvoctrYRmVvl5Vb5IGtNA7pCO4R9zNPNCPZuec78 arciqKmJavozaZJuWYPKkigbxAzLHFvCA8abtUkVpyYevHpIA00DEd2AQtcpbJ6m3GJT Ttlg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.230.70 with SMTP id d67mr938067oih.14.1437012594518; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:09:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <559edcfa DOT 440d460a DOT 72d9 DOT 29cf AT mx DOT google DOT com> <201507092128 DOT t69LSc2j001777 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507120012 DOT t6C0CfnW014811 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507120145 DOT t6C1jnc8020051 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <1436950214 DOT 2876 DOT 57 DOT camel AT linetec> <20150715202828 DOT GA17392 AT localhost DOT localdomain> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 11:39:54 +0930 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Re: developer excitement? From: "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114075c63bf29d051af491ec Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --001a114075c63bf29d051af491ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Given that most users install gEDA because they want to design a PCB, the netlist functionality that glues gschem and PCB together remains opaque to, and possibly even unnoticed by, most initiates. Further documentation that extends or adds to http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnetlist_ug would be most useful to assist potential developers interested in maximising the potential of the tool suite without resorting to un-necessarily complicated workarounds downstream. Regards, Erich. On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, John Doty wrote: > > On Jul 15, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > For me gschem is a bit of a black box. If the existing material on scheme > use in gschem could be expanded and enhanced, we are more likely to lure > potential developers into enhancing and extending it, > > > There=E2=80=99s gschem and gnetlist. From where I sit, gschem is fairly c= omplete > as an editor for graphics with attached metadata. Further extension beyon= d > a few conveniences would appear to require extensions of the file format. > There=E2=80=99s not a lot of opportunity to make gschem more powerful, bu= t better > graphics could be nice. > > The center of both the power and frustration of geda-gaf to me is > gnetlist. If the views into the design it presents contain the data you > need, and you=E2=80=99ve figured out enough Scheme (not much: I=E2=80=99m= just a baby > Scheme programmer), you can do great things with just a few lines of > scripting. > > i.e. it'd be great if we could add more examples to > > http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnetlist_scheme_tutorial > > > I always intended that to be a first installment. Your encouragement may > get me to write another. > > http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gschem_ug:extensions > > So, please do go into further detail, it would be of interest to me and t= o > others I am sure. > > > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > > http://www.noqsi.com/ > > jpd AT noqsi DOT com > > > --001a114075c63bf29d051af491ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Given that most users install gEDA because they want = to design a PCB, the netlist functionality that glues gschem and PCB togeth= er remains opaque to, and possibly even unnoticed by, most initiates.
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:

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On Jul 15, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]= <geda-user AT d= elorie.com> wrote:

For me gschem is a bit of a black box. If the existing material on = scheme use in gschem could be expanded and enhanced, we are more likely to = lure potential developers into enhancing and extending it,

There=E2=80=99s gschem and gnetlist. From wh= ere I sit, gschem is fairly complete as an editor for graphics with attache= d metadata. Further extension beyond a few conveniences would appear to req= uire extensions of the file format. There=E2=80=99s not a lot of opportunit= y to make gschem more powerful, but better graphics could be nice.

The center of both the power and frustration of geda-gaf t= o me is gnetlist. If the views into the design it presents contain the data= you need, and you=E2=80=99ve figured out enough Scheme (not much: I=E2=80= =99m just a baby Scheme programmer), you can do great things with just a fe= w lines of scripting.

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I al= ways intended that to be a first installment. Your encouragement may get me= to write another.

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John Doty=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.<= /font>

http://www.noqsi.com/

jpd AT noqsi DOT com


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