X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com X-NSA-prism-xkeyscore: I do not consent to surveillance, prick X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=neurotica.com; s=default; t=1437011188; bh=Gl4bqXo3Hfrt52MiCLMU5N/5PcqHYpzrVs41RBtaXD0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=PHXsnw0MiXzXEl7mpULvZPDIdy1aMav+tiMhi3ZI+uDbpAUfsY0Ofaux5l8sMSw95 xd/X/H6ed9/XKgs9LbKFGEm7V4DWdzOfXNxBD8oM7gGkZELMTbsx4uAHVYlwUCPvzF V4AyExVMWtHpn0vqR55nnbEELGiQNn7suiv4uXh0= Message-ID: <55A70CF4.40904@neurotica.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 21:46:28 -0400 From: "Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] The new to do References: <20150713131707 DOT GA782 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <55A4042E DOT 5060402 AT neurotica DOT com> <55A41B30 DOT 50602 AT neurotica DOT com> <254F9AFE-1A3E-4D88-BABF-E6E0F87A56B1 AT icloud DOT com> <1436960577 DOT 1072 DOT 6 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <201507151820 DOT t6FIKYME001704 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507152007 DOT t6FK7lv8005229 AT envy DOT del! orie.com> <24AD56C6-B7C2-4D7E-B69A-F68DBACCBFDC AT noqsi DOT com> <201507152051 DOT t6FKp8ip006830 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507160024 DOT t6G0OZrG013557 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t6G1ka4O018639 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 07/15/2015 09:31 PM, John Doty wrote: >> What we *would* like to do is expand the tools to allow a wider >> range of things to be possible, without stopping the old things >> from working > > How do you keep the documentation and menus simple? Every unnecessary > feature makes it harder for the user to discover and employ the > necessary ones (been there with Viewlogic). Unnecessary IN YOUR VIEW. Not that of others. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. >> or being needlessly complex. The opposition to *any* change has >> made this more difficult than it should be. > > No, it *should* be difficult. Geda-gaf is a mature, stable, useful > toolkit. Ill-considered change is bad. And since you automatically label ALL change as being ill-considered unless you yourself are the originator of the idea, this makes it pretty damn tough for it to be anything other than John Doty's Tool Suite. > Adding features to software is > like adding mass to aircraft: not always bad, but there’d better be > very strong justification. ...to which you will not listen. > But that itself reflects pcb’s inflexibility. If you could import > netlists from 20 other tools, you’d want those interfaces factored > out, I think. I certainly would. Stop bashing PCB. I for one am tired of hearing it. Please, John, just stop. You are making a fool of yourself. Again. Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA