X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+yGATsgJqydEpfnqJy1zmRFKByvlNILTt3PaAPvTWD8=; b=rX7Duk2g+CleHFp8ML3MFsTcasYHRGg0WkivZq2WUeslnkhphNWGJjm9iMtaQhbOVB n+NzyebwLMYMm4E5VwFa/9Wkd5Sd8T4mxR6RcNPcERlTh6hEQFfmTnGT3yx6eMJvKJpE VhjFAbm9h+rUWKI1I7NNenG9vlbOFamshKIxoQTbxcAPPFekJ0eXlNHyp6zG3t9Hxj1G ZFXgV1TVmL4DvXItZIcuWBfg642xLjMCBd57DrGFUdxLVh8FvkS2axE9uxhDaQyRXRWE ccnkXM2uJoKyLmERd6Spv/GIlpu9u/y5rMIrLqhoGI6dgrpzQVbmo04qB0ZhgCK/FMSX xaqg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.161.197 with SMTP id xu5mr6920265lbb.69.1437010271808; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:31:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201507160024.t6G0OZrG013557@envy.delorie.com> References: <55A2A0A2 DOT 4080403 AT ecosensory DOT com> <7AE39440-DA68-4491-A965-C1B97D1D86C1 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712213152 DOT 7968b74c AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <304D9D86-3CF6-4D61-A5CA-6CE414EA0661 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712224637 DOT 2d4cc2de AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <55A2E9B7 DOT 9040502 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150713131707 DOT GA782 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <55A4042E DOT 5060402 AT neurotica DOT com> <55A41B30 DOT 50602 AT neurotica DOT com> <254F9AFE-1A3E-4D88-BABF-E6E0F87A56B1 AT icloud DOT com> <1436960577 DOT 1072 DOT 6 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <201507151820 DOT t6FIKYME001704 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507152007 DOT t6FK7lv8005229 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <24AD56C6-B7C2-4D7E-B69A-F68DBACCBFDC AT noqsi DOT com> <201507152051 DOT t6FKp8ip006830 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507160024 DOT t6G0OZrG013557 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:31:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] The new to do From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:24 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> I don't want to enter a world where the workflow is a direct flow >> from gschem to pcb. That would be very inflexible. I also don't see >> how it would really be saving anytime in coding. > > That is not the case, has never been the case, and nobody is > suggesting that it be the case. PCB goes through the netlister like > everyone else, and none of the options we've discussed prevent you > from doing things a different way if you want. I believe he advocated adding onto gnetlist to simply format this extra data from the schematic into something everyone could use. To me that makes perfect sense. I don't actually see from any of this thread what plan you are advocating. > If it *really* bothers you, it's all open source - make a copy for > yourself and don't update, and you don't have to worry about anything > changing any more. Everything I have done to this point was to use my effort to code things that would pull in other people. I don't want to stay frozen. > What we *would* like to do is expand the tools to allow a wider range > of things to be possible, without stopping the old things from working > or being needlessly complex. The opposition to *any* change has made > this more difficult than it should be. I think my intent did not come out right here. I could point out how but I don't feel like a debate, social aspects do not appeal to me. > PCB's importer is an example of that. We improved the existing tools > to implement a significant convenience feature, and made it easy for > the user to use. This doesn't prevent you from using the old gsc2pcb > if you want. I was wrong in my initial negative opinion of that. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/