X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] PCB interface (ECAD vs. MCAD) From: "Chris Smith (space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:11:43 +0100 Message-id: References: <76520AC3-3E8D-4F80-A912-AB076DD8D0C6 AT icloud DOT com> <1670171546 DOT 913210 DOT 1436776811789 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <79456AAA-24A9-4300-900D-005ABBCFCBDA AT icloud DOT com> <60F3B5BC-EC05-41FE-BAF7-B2A14B4392EC AT icloud DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-07-15_03:2015-07-14,2015-07-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1507150116 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t6F7CEjs011660 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 15 Jul 2015, at 04:29, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Vaclav Peroutka (vaclavpe AT seznam DOT cz) > [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> >> However it nearly always has some kind of panel mounting. When I start a >> layout, I nearly always want to start with the mechanical components, to >> say: distribute these switches/LEDS between here and here, on 20mm centres. >> This is trivial with 2D MCAD, but cumbersome with PCB. >> >> >> Good idea. All profesional flows start with "mechanical" design of PCB - >> mounting holes, connectors, LEDs, switches etc. These footprints must not be >> touched later. Then placement and layout of all non-mechanical components > > I like this a lot. Could we use a library that already exists to > import dxf or something? Most of my projects for work do start this > way. I do have some where the prototyping and etc are more important > than a case. I’m not sure that really solves the problem. Or at least it introduces new ones: you have to associate footprints with their DXF representations, or just use the DXF as a graphical underlay — like you can do with raster images at the moment. Useful but not optimal. I think DXF import (and export) could be useful, in the same way that I find Gerber import in QCad useful. However in general I think it would be better to make PCB’s drawing tools work in a much more CADish manner. Regards, Chris — Chris Smith