X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Envelope-From: paubert AT iram DOT es Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 08:57:59 +0200 From: "Gabriel Paubert (paubert AT iram DOT es) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] PCB interface (ECAD vs. MCAD) Message-ID: <20150714065758.GB9338@visitor2.iram.es> References: <76520AC3-3E8D-4F80-A912-AB076DD8D0C6 AT icloud DOT com> <1670171546 DOT 913210 DOT 1436776811789 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <79456AAA-24A9-4300-900D-005ABBCFCBDA AT icloud DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spamina-Bogosity: Unsure X-Spamina-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spamina-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-0.2 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4759] 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gmane.org] Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 03:01:34AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Ouabache Designworks (z3qmtr45- > Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w AT public DOT gmane DOT org) [via geda-user- > Ht4Cp5ncgjRBDgjK7y7TUQ AT public DOT gmane DOT org] wrote: > > > I'm > > surprised that no one has applied autorouting to schematic capture, > > That would really be usefull. > > Schematic capture serves two purposes. It is the way the electronics > designer tells the computer about the connections he needs in the > netlist. And it also is meant to present the topology of the circuit > to the human eye as comprehensibly as possible. A readable schematic > asks for much more than "connect all these pins with lines". > > An auto router needs to be told which pins to connect. In other words, > it needs a netlist. But it is the main purpose of schematic capture to > create a netlist in the first place. Indeed, but at least a tool to help fixup non right-angle nets would be a first step, and it must be doable. There was such a tool back when I used OrCAD or a 286. BTW, a long time ago I protested because there was no dot when 3 or 4 pins coincided without a net segment. The bug was fixed at some point but is now back. Gabriel