X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201507140209.t6E29V39029166@envy.delorie.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:55:39 -0600 Message-Id: <6C481B59-D7CC-43E5-B761-AD4C5A29F4A8@noqsi.com> References: <20150707060409 DOT GB14357 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <1436287952 DOT 678 DOT 26 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <559C0F7E DOT 7010009 AT neurotica DOT com> <1436295556 DOT 678 DOT 91 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <559C3778 DOT 4000105 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150708072021 DOT GB13243 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> <20150713082342 DOT GB26809 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> <201507131725 DOT t6DHPU2V010794 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507140209 DOT t6E29V39029166 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t6E2tmSn022152 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:09 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Not at all. At the top level of a complicated board you get an >> incomprehensible wad of lines if you try to diagram it. A table can >> be much more useful. > > Why do people insist on telling me I'm wrong about how *I* do *my* > tasks? I'm not an idiot and I've done this before. I don't want a > table of connections. If the wad of lines is too dense to follow without confusion, what good is it? > I want something that tells me how the board > functions, because I'm not the original designer. Of course. But from the point of view of how the board functions, it really doesn’t matter whether output B-4 is on connector pin 156 or 56. But, you may want to probe it with your scope. For me, it’s a whole lot easier to figure that out from a table than from tracing a line on a dense schematic. > >> But why complicate the tool, when the toolkit approach solves this >> without the complication? > > Because not everyone wants to do things your way. You’re pushing graphics, but then you want tables in gschem, a graphics tool. Make up your mind. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com