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On 07/13/2015 03:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
>>> Indeed five years ago I started with some Cairo drawing on a GTK drawing
>>> area for fun -- later that evolves to my gschem clone. But at that time
>>> I was not aware how unpopular GTK now is.
>>
>>   Just for the record, I've never gotten the impression (except for
>> here, just in this set of threads) that GTK is unpopular.
> 
> So I really recommend never using a google search term as "GTK vs Qt" or
> similar :-)
> 
> For example this, but you can find much more
> 
> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2dxik3/future_of_gnome_and_gtk_when_whole_world_is/
> 
> 
> Some search results may be silly, but there is unfortunately a very
> clear tendency. And many developers have migrated their software from
> GTK to Qt in the last years, no one in the other direction. I already
> said that for myself GTK3 on my Linux box is still fine -- one problem
> is, that their is no community left. One single core developer seems to
> be still subscribed to main GTK mailing list! Documentation of GTK3 is
> really not bad, but asking someone when one has problems is really a
> problem. Indeed getting a fine answer is the problem.  For the bad look
> and feel on Mac and Windows -- I heard that everywhere. I am not fully
> convinced that it looks so bad, saw some screenshots which I considered
> OK, but maybe not really native look. At least I have to admit that
> Gnome/GTK developers do not care much about Windows and Mac, for long
> time only GTK 3.6.4 was available prebuild for Windows, while we had
> already 3.14 for Linux. Another problem of GTK is of course the inner
> structure with gobject, it is difficult and no new developer will ever
> want to work on internal code. But that is only relevant for the few
> remaining core developers. For me one big advantage of GTK is that its
> plain C API makes it so easy to use it from many other programming
> languages. For Qt with its MOC that is really a problem.

  That is pretty scary, and a bit surprising; I learned something
interesting today.

  I know Qt licensing used to be a hassle; has that situation improved?

  One change I've noticed in Qt over the past few years is that
applications seem to be much faster now.  Early Qt stuff ran like
lumbering bloated pigs, presumably due to bad C++ code.  Now, in QUCS
for example, things are lightning fast.

                 -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA