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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> On 07/13/2015 11:36 AM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>>> I see this FLTK thing, and it looks good, but this is not mature.
>>>
>>> FLTK had its initial release in 1998.  I personally have used it, and
>>> can attest to its working well (by its own standard) since about 2006.
>>> I don't know how that can be considered not mature.
>>>
>>> Sorry to add one more bit of non-geda noise.
>>
>> Noise is better than silence and there is content in your words and
>> other peoples. The hard part is figuring out how to integrate
>> everything into a plan.
>
>   Then the next hard part is people finding time to do the actual work.
>  Every time all of us have a big conversation about the next big step
> for gschem or PCB, it ends with nothing (or nearly nothing) actually
> getting done.  It happens every couple of years.

Yes well. I have a good feeling about this time. Although that might
be a side effect of my own intentions.

>   I think what we need to motivate actual development, rather than
> conversation, is cold hard CASH.  I'll kick in a few bucks for the next
> round of development, whatever it may be, for gschem and PCB.

It got a long way with out paid developers. I think kicad got
basically just as far before CERN got involved and it remains to be
scene how much farther it will go. At the start CERN just wanted an
open source project equivalent to Eagle, after they get that who knows
if they will continue. There are underlying issues remaining with
kicad's code. eeschema as I understand it suffers the same fundamental
issues as our PCB.

http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_road-map.html#eeschema

* Coherent SCHEMATIC Object "Clean up the code related to the
schematic object(s) into a coherent object for managing and
manipulating the schematic."
<- to me this reads exactly like our current problem with PCB
* Hierarchical Sheet Design "Create a more robust sheet instance
design rather than recreating them on the fly every time sheet
information is required."
 <- we have this now
* Schematic and Component Library Plugin "Create a plugin manager for
loading and saving schematics and component libraries similar to the
board plugin manager."
<- we are bating how to architect this
* Keepout Zones. "Add support for keepout zones on boards and footprints."
<- This is a wanted feature for us too

>   Anyone else?
>
>                  -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA



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