X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <1436814649.685.45.camel@ssalewski.de> Subject: Re: [geda-user] PCB interface (ECAD vs. MCAD) From: Stefan Salewski To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 21:10:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <55A403B4.1050505@neurotica.com> References: <76520AC3-3E8D-4F80-A912-AB076DD8D0C6 AT icloud DOT com> <1670171546 DOT 913210 DOT 1436776811789 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <79456AAA-24A9-4300-900D-005ABBCFCBDA AT icloud DOT com> <1436801138 DOT 685 DOT 9 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <55A403B4 DOT 1050505 AT neurotica DOT com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2015-07-13 at 14:30 -0400, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On 07/13/2015 11:25 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > > Indeed five years ago I started with some Cairo drawing on a GTK drawing > > area for fun -- later that evolves to my gschem clone. But at that time > > I was not aware how unpopular GTK now is. > > Just for the record, I've never gotten the impression (except for > here, just in this set of threads) that GTK is unpopular. > > -Dave > So I really recommend never using a google search term as "GTK vs Qt" or similar :-) For example this, but you can find much more http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2dxik3/future_of_gnome_and_gtk_when_whole_world_is/ Some search results may be silly, but there is unfortunately a very clear tendency. And many developers have migrated their software from GTK to Qt in the last years, no one in the other direction. I already said that for myself GTK3 on my Linux box is still fine -- one problem is, that their is no community left. One single core developer seems to be still subscribed to main GTK mailing list! Documentation of GTK3 is really not bad, but asking someone when one has problems is really a problem. Indeed getting a fine answer is the problem. For the bad look and feel on Mac and Windows -- I heard that everywhere. I am not fully convinced that it looks so bad, saw some screenshots which I considered OK, but maybe not really native look. At least I have to admit that Gnome/GTK developers do not care much about Windows and Mac, for long time only GTK 3.6.4 was available prebuild for Windows, while we had already 3.14 for Linux. Another problem of GTK is of course the inner structure with gobject, it is difficult and no new developer will ever want to work on internal code. But that is only relevant for the few remaining core developers. For me one big advantage of GTK is that its plain C API makes it so easy to use it from many other programming languages. For Qt with its MOC that is really a problem.