X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com X-NSA-prism-xkeyscore: I do not consent to surveillance, prick X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=neurotica.com; s=default; t=1436812334; bh=gky5PCwxiPwD+BhWtZ6BWFPw1KGTR+cvQQo2r/MP4TU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=cGEWkZBNhmDWQwnFfhmWNxXjjgTcRtbk7avThBltQfVo7qdnyBpVaoD17lQu/onpd P7MWjXBC4n0xjDNAboamqBoMIlnTAu9f5PYP2n68DHymuNRWr5nDjJjU+EjF9WOsgr krwzkwXpgBVzllsq18xOymHAxxJf5y6NM0ookw9s= Message-ID: <55A4042E.5060402@neurotica.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:32:14 -0400 From: "Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] The new to do References: <55A2A0A2 DOT 4080403 AT ecosensory DOT com> <7AE39440-DA68-4491-A965-C1B97D1D86C1 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712213152 DOT 7968b74c AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <304D9D86-3CF6-4D61-A5CA-6CE414EA0661 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150712224637 DOT 2d4cc2de AT wind DOT levalinux DOT org> <55A2E9B7 DOT 9040502 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150713131707 DOT GA782 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 07/13/2015 11:36 AM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> I see this FLTK thing, and it looks good, but this is not mature. >> >> FLTK had its initial release in 1998. I personally have used it, and >> can attest to its working well (by its own standard) since about 2006. >> I don't know how that can be considered not mature. >> >> Sorry to add one more bit of non-geda noise. > > Noise is better than silence and there is content in your words and > other peoples. The hard part is figuring out how to integrate > everything into a plan. Then the next hard part is people finding time to do the actual work. Every time all of us have a big conversation about the next big step for gschem or PCB, it ends with nothing (or nearly nothing) actually getting done. It happens every couple of years. I think what we need to motivate actual development, rather than conversation, is cold hard CASH. I'll kick in a few bucks for the next round of development, whatever it may be, for gschem and PCB. Anyone else? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA