X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-07-13_07:2015-07-11,2015-07-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1507130148 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] PCB interface (ECAD vs. MCAD) From: "Chris Smith (space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:46:46 +0100 Message-id: <60F3B5BC-EC05-41FE-BAF7-B2A14B4392EC@icloud.com> References: <76520AC3-3E8D-4F80-A912-AB076DD8D0C6 AT icloud DOT com> <1670171546 DOT 913210 DOT 1436776811789 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <79456AAA-24A9-4300-900D-005ABBCFCBDA AT icloud DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t6DAl3lr006861 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > On 13 Jul 2015, at 10:33, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > I think it's PCB is a bit more than 2d - or rather, should be. Ideally, it knows the thickness of layers and which of the layers are connected by a plated drill. This how blind or burried vias would be possible. Why does it need to know the layer thickness? It’s a useful property to associate with the layer, but I don’t see why PCB needs to know about it. > Btw, I see the validity in your MCAD->ECAD idea; actually when I need to do draw something mechanical, if it's small, I sometimes just use PCB. I shoulnd't, but I'm so much faster with PCB than with librecad for those very small things... A typical example is small floorplans, especially if I don't need dimension lines (they are expensive in PCB and cheap in librecad). My scale is usually 1mm PCB = 1m real life. I guess I’m kind of the opposite. I’m not a power PCB user: the stuff I work on is rarely more than two layers and never larger than Eurocard sized. However it nearly always has some kind of panel mounting. When I start a layout, I nearly always want to start with the mechanical components, to say: distribute these switches/LEDS between here and here, on 20mm centres. This is trivial with 2D MCAD, but cumbersome with PCB. Regards, Chris — Chris Smith