X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 05:43:58 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: igor2 AT igor2priv To: "Girvin R. Herr (gherr375 AT sbcglobal DOT net) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" X-Debug: to=geda-user AT delorie DOT com from="gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" From: gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu Subject: Re: developer excitement? was Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? In-Reply-To: <55A2E108.4090607@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: References: <55A229D3 DOT 3080501 AT zoot DOT drehmel DOT com> <55A29426 DOT 8080908 AT xs4all DOT nl> <55A2BD85 DOT 9000004 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <55A2C432 DOT 8040306 AT neurotica DOT com> <55A2E108 DOT 4090607 AT sbcglobal DOT net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Jul 2015, Girvin R. Herr (gherr375 AT sbcglobal DOT net) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > When I first looked at LCAD, I got on their user's list to see how much help > they were giving to users. If I were to do that to the geda-user list this > past week, I would have found very little help being given to users and > probably not commit to use geda for my work. I would expect many users, There was very little (==0) user questions. My experience from the past decade is when user questions appear, no matter how hard "non-user" traffic is, it gets answered. I am not sure what kind of email software you are using. Many email clients can sort volumes of mail so it's very easy to delete what you don't want. It (alpine) has a concept of threads, so that 200 messages are in a forest of a few trees. I can hide trees or delete whole subtrees. When one of the subtree started to turn into the usual "I don't care why you prefer centralized vcs, but you mst switch to dvcs because it is better" thread, I could easily cut it off. I trust potential geda users can handle this. The suite is not user friendly in the now-fashionable sense of the term anyway. Users who can't sort 200 emails, will drop out of the user base during the first days and switch to something more integrated. > myself included, do not care anything about the inner workings of the tools. Please also note that about two third of these threads are not strictly about the inner workings of the tool, but about decisions on what the tool should do in the future - on a level that is very relevant to any user. Regards, Igor2