X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=27/svmpv9S27Amw6/YXEaB4XXES1ehMuYw266AFr82o=; b=pBJJwBmvo0u7cRI64dotl9+Ny9xz/hgPChjHAbZIsyQ80CFkKE5r2BogfMr1Z4K6KV OeP/cwWNb8kyJrUmDQOEU7ZiI2h+FRbrJnWkV+cvrhA3j5vNoTM0jJyCrzY+ebYr3HNS 337fWOMt3YYfavedGaEljUAD7nJuolx8cHVXaMOgZIHZkDEWJX5iJKEJj1FCUjFq4tfa K8s7lzzja5PKMVs+0c+ks3ym3/wgyqiIZsPRw90+48GrvuX/TMd8RyraNCpgVR5Xqj7L dpjCu9l9s5vopOwZlZi8o5FRA31LoxGJTDEPlCogbY627Dc6dqxRLvWvxV+3f2u2ud6w 5chQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.27.197 with SMTP id v5mr17186052lag.64.1436485301751; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 16:41:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201507092221.t69ML8K2003695@envy.delorie.com> References: <1436477539 DOT 1747 DOT 21 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <201507092150 DOT t69Lo53N002627 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201507092221 DOT t69ML8K2003695 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 23:41:41 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] What is the hardest part in a PCB layout program? From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:21 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> That problem seems to be endemic to all EDA not just the pcb part. >> Perhaps that should be a short term mission. (not trying to push you >> into it, just trying to find a focusing point) > > In pcb, the internal data is a bit hokey. It would be nice if the > data could recurse, allowing a footprint to be more than just the few > things allowed in a footprint, or to handle heirarchical designs more > cleanly. There are lots of arbitrary limits in our internal data > system that could be changed. > > Another "short term" project is replacing the ancient object oriented > design with something easier to maintain. Huge tables of function > pointers all over the source is a bad thing these days. I think that is something that *needs* to be done. It won't be sexy but it would be good to house in a separate library so that people working on kicad could handle our files using our code. OT: I don't really believe in format translation for a lot of stuff it just leads to a polyglot of re-re-re-translated symbols/footprints and etc. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/