X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s2048; t=1436311702; bh=QjPXOnGOUPhA8Qw+Ob2g1jXEN7CG+ML6qoutmeZTlH0=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To:From:Subject; b=OEN1DjjXw4EVfAiGZBSMMvm3jZsUMbv8bZP63DM6Id3Dr9KXbOoOVGY01Q7q4UIv16ai+OnN7TefyMr2nkIlw18CeMIMNmTITqDG0TosLZZodiaEvMiUw52++iDvzBQr1xNRI6hXi0xfxtBE6bSfbIQz6jaWdsxMQxYRZSOyzc+2MNBpPjiJsu7vdWjtrib96sPqDmuBHH1jsW3DwaKVcD2XFTB1jzNXg06XZsa+Q9RHPJjxqmSyfn171vSi+2lCGAqtl9QeBCe/in9wHyLzBgVSI8zQC3qvSF6FS1hv9lMCEkbhPSn6diS2p2CFUV74G0cAty4t85+7YwmEDsu4yw== X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 459433 DOT 19515 DOT bm AT smtp202 DOT mail DOT gq1 DOT yahoo DOT com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: kSix3iEVM1n_tQdY5xRbdiHv7tBwQfHzW4ubJ9R63JmMASc G91FvZRjgidOGyIm93yfTpW3MQwz1WVmYMXg_d6_j4ofrk_e8rGTT_NamTPI e_gh9dwWJMt6VymJjWaf8sMVkOI8yEip9mFnU3rS6je5ePWynYNU918Lfu0F KX5BiPqov.GutXk9rzRcEgGyil6of41R1Kn5VXYF5BE7BD5FobTR6et8jWli .GpcnwHQ3ClpxPMu5K3AWIaanMJENXU9J1SNQwRRwvdJgJ4YXkTHsmlv2gGl WLNdw41qV3gQFbMuIkQdjbhIb_seNNDeouRP0TvK8tf8o7FPK.qHPkRIcpHc X2gMZQkjtuY1Mf0My7lrf3abAq8N_GcjXGVCPdO.STm.aGe46sFPjFC95Psx bgenJ40LGOtkB_xYK4uiNZBm4H9JXvY7PHqNpMtgWr.3xZ_eA6JIo4_Eq.sM MhGf.satu_sNKCN_naI6O1JsFgUX6z..RGhwfXwPyTAJ9RnEIVWwoeIwSUIC EngEk02zQVfGv_qPpHLhcM6BMaf.Kl4PpACYUuYgNrKTovvckVao- X-Yahoo-SMTP: b8jVkbOswBAqZ4BhECp7nxPJUfTGEnEGv_G4qgQeZMeAbA-- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? From: "Edward Hennessy (ehennes AT sbcglobal DOT net) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" In-Reply-To: <20150707211811.GB2780@alpha2> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 16:28:21 -0700 Message-Id: <045B3361-8DF2-4E1F-B437-C770C29327E6@sbcglobal.net> References: <1435510363 DOT 682 DOT 26 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20150703030409 DOT 32398 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20150703191532 DOT GB21182 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20150707160130 DOT GA18930 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <1FB0D727-9B89-4017-8FDE-7D9EEBE1589D AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20150707211811 DOT GB2780 AT alpha2> To: "geda-user AT delorie DOT com" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t67NSS88022364 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > On Jul 7, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Ivan Stankovic (pokemon AT fly DOT srk DOT fer DOT hr) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 10:20:10AM -0700, Edward Hennessy (ehennes AT sbcglobal DOT net) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> The likelihood that this thread, including the input from all the >> developers and users, sets direction of the gEDA is slim. > > I completely agree. > >> One developer either dives in and changes things, or goes somewhere else >> and starts a new version. I'd like to see some process that resolves >> the conflicting priorities of the community, can set direction, and >> allow multiple developers to coordinate as a team. > > I do not see the need to "resolve conflicting priorities". It is not > like somebody is going to prevent somebody from coding. The code is out > there. Everyone can contribute and make an improvement. Or a fork. > > In my opinion, any effort that waits on the community consensus is > doomed. Agreed. I believe a process could be adopted or contrived. For example, voting with dots could be used. Using Scrum/Agile as a starting point would be better than what we have now. > The only approach that has a chance of success is to just > do the work. It's not like this is news. I remember the moment > the -dev list was isolated from the -user list, for exactly the > same reason. Having "heroic programmers" dive in and code everything indicates a problem to me. Not only do we lose programmers that only have a limited number of hours to dedicate to the project, heroic programmers tend to burn out and leave. Cheers, Ed