X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=cNJKCYoWZXKPSzkFjzNPHCdC0BT3Bs+4nRvxEGZRuxQ=; b=BmKdZtfDHbw3ku9ne4oTnggjHQnvTM9ueSmhFvg9w8boUrOEbFnSsuIAg8djvfo3P+ XU1Ohi+HEuBpEQSeiROAJv3YxengqIXFhqdjH/xgHBgfSsbJXG18svVG2DtxOwjKqd/0 3kzTJVQHJrt8YULAS5OJ9Cda+ZbDq1OYIl1T4fEYYuFw+zs4FxccAHRAtvFjALKzpLOK iSz/ki2A5pJQtWC4XizFIvmlM96GsL+y/YWY3GpvviCnJOGQ2gL7qimkaeVbvkaNQ5Vn hIKCUnHJVsP6XdsNgnY7BZHpth/CnyBw6D7sdQ6bKCVL6YlvXHi/1OLsS9Kab6g57ZKQ M2ZA== X-Received: by 10.152.88.77 with SMTP id be13mr5574147lab.112.1436301685734; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 23:41:23 +0300 From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? Message-ID: <20150707204123.GB18930@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <1435510363 DOT 682 DOT 26 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20150703030409 DOT 32398 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <20150703191532 DOT GB21182 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20150707160130 DOT GA18930 AT localhost DOT localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 12:45:44PM -0400, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: ... > > I think other way round. For me, interpreted languages are preferable. > > BTW, Stefan Salewski (who started this flame :)) has often claimed > > that if we'd use an interpreted language, the development of gEDA would > > be quicker. > > > > It's frustrating for me that the core functionality of libgeda/gschem is > > written in C (e.g. reading and writing of files) which makes it > > unmaintainable (see, for example, what bugs are marked as critical at > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/geda) for a long time. I believe, it would be > > easier to fix them if the geda-gaf language was really Guile/Scheme. > > I do not agree. > 1. Scheme as a language falling in developer base. Even if you wanted > a different language from C it really is not the best choice right > now. (please see our other thread) :) > 2. Does compiling before execution really slow development that much? > If you are iterating that rapidly then something else is kind of > dubious. What is this about? Guile DOES compile its programs now. Compiling of C slows writing of extensions. Do you prefer to write extensions in C and propose the geda users to always work with C sources? > 3. For small throw away plugins interprited languages make sense but > for exectution time I prefer the speed of trade off we have now. I don't understand this sentence, sorry. Could you please elaborate some more? ... > If I could I would limit our language choices for the core of gEDA and > PCB but I have 0 authority. Probably, we have to discuss language limiting. For me, 2-3 languages would be enough :) I'm not certain of your authority. Who can prohibit us to discuss this here? ... > > I believe real coding is the way to go. > > Was someone doing fictional coding? (ok now I am being snarky) I'm about this: https://www.mail-archive.com/geda-user AT moria DOT seul DOT org/msg30998.html > > > For language bindings, gobject libraries already used in geda-gaf would > > be helpful. I didn't hear about any comparable libraries yet. > > If we had better documentation you could implement that. Better documentation for what? Cheers, Vladimir