X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=m0n5t3r.info; s=m0n5t3r; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=oz6E4VSnuIeTeS/7JgKMCKYuknh1swvz/L3A9fZPzCI=; b=Tq70rxDsKDF8sYxOj7DhQsHJ1jONdpVXCNUR2xnXw0zXok4XwclnITPBtdSuw11AKG J7BmjcKBMsWo5Y3LiRK8oIfVo8TO1oBw5zbjC9H/gRPE1cE+I5JiYIvv05vlJX897w13 4OKQ4GHcDw1UMOPpVIvi24pEmk4zPpohi/9zg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=oz6E4VSnuIeTeS/7JgKMCKYuknh1swvz/L3A9fZPzCI=; b=Zi2cGFl7MT5OKmroJqR+3eJzM3xlxHwuaV590KfCfApKhqRg7UUiI9Mi3oCIu/mMx3 nKiYcj2LJKzBBIPrAOQQMgdREGhiY438tzWwN771grMdqsrGzpIrcwT2Y/pLpx2Phxtj 94pQjQKqlGe+3j22KlwMObogzuJJFrcoA+UfDxUbq6tPqDvmztHfYE/L4O9/JhhKk6Wr hJS9MTt3an0y87VcOrhz2Tm0HoKWHCkEFYTZcOYCBx8HItPRNoRjfVJ0YdhiKngg2oKv bYtZVromMOlUZFOGvmLX9xZcKmzOoxMXUvFMiiur2MTY7j2uN4q0y90VsAJleF2alI9D 7BLg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlEfZVn3SNdgNdNJas7rYnwift4TyuYfaF3xXPLCLNFG/uxDBFgB2SytCOlMzUt0AB6WzYg X-Received: by 10.194.86.130 with SMTP id p2mr35788373wjz.99.1435782736573; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 13:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? [offtopic] To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <1435510363 DOT 682 DOT 26 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <55902AB9 DOT 9000004 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150629113018 DOT GH19654 AT fi DOT muni DOT cz> <1435581145 DOT 1447 DOT 19 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20150630083528 DOT GY19654 AT fi DOT muni DOT cz> <1435666431 DOT 676 DOT 13 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <5833A5F3-C17B-409D-A3B3-553F9DCFEAC5 AT noqsi DOT com> <5592ABB1 DOT 7090404 AT plastitar DOT com> <724860AC-6174-478A-AFD9-A1B117161F58 AT noqsi DOT com> <201506301643 DOT t5UGhLNR020245 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> From: "Sabin Iacob (iacobs AT m0n5t3r DOT info) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55944E4B.8020209@m0n5t3r.info> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 23:32:11 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p1s0lPpwITioP6CHu73ioe38RMvDHoPb2" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --p1s0lPpwITioP6CHu73ioe38RMvDHoPb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/01/2015 10:38 PM, John Doty wrote: > On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > >> For what its worth, I fell that the EDA suites to compare to is not $$= $=20 >> but kicad. > Kicad is complementary to gEDA in a way similar to OpenOffice versus La= tex. Integrated tool versus toolkit. Both have their place. > > I'm pretty sure he was comparing on a per-component basis; for instance, even if I find Kicad's PCB thing unusable, it has some neat things I'd love to see in pcb (drag traces around and they stay connected _and_ keep their angles, push/shove traces, helpers for length matching, (not sure about) bus/multiple trace routing, nets displayed if the zoom level is high enough... [1]). I think the Kicad gschem equivalent is roughly similar from a basic user point of view - the differences were mostly cosmetic last time I tried to use it (1-2 years ago). [1] this is what I've been able to gather from YouTube videos - I'm never able to find anything in the actual pcbnew, I just keep it installed because I might have to open something created with it sometimes; I do start it every few months only to promptly get lost and kill it with fire. --p1s0lPpwITioP6CHu73ioe38RMvDHoPb2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVlE5MAAoJEIIekQf3ltoLO7AP/0w2H6B01QqZeCCYF2Zeoiz+ AktFrVj/lLFZm2cR0XqkVeg+ovJEErKalWhZMmhKsoHeUbqW1OFdyr9rhVRm8crI /Hhlf+ulhhnXuibApmCGkGpDRtw+8iVjUy+jkSsS1S4F+jsk7Tu4ChjhP/CavOA4 u0tt2Qim2d7D493WzI1F0TVQfUChcRc3/BpuRvBoX/CXU+xGJ9TjYATVZ+VZBFA2 qFvM5SSdQ4Y+OBwmbJ29a8frOIDAzE6x3ExqzToVnUKnSYzZJ0qS5E1le3IWvDr7 FXO5uWzjIxqkXdrkJVu2C3Q2AbXF5vyuJbvvk5IHn+Uq3Ud1ni5/FCcoFGAxSYqs ybU7+vAfpt4eavx2UP9Lezv09ulSMTCfVMBtS9Nw3SYOWkCqWmLdhUUu9BkKq2x9 D8fzg4FdWrnzfKLY7vXpBYsmPY8gOnIlVLeEIqsBntby/mK/oXD3L3ObserHbeg9 OE3P9CCesLzI6sUc0H6FWr7M1GxeoYZ9D+J+jypGjMufPrVMTqWDLLDPZ8uyrdsB ZOdesPahsXaLUJ14dMx7p2xRsBsPwgryArlFs7HdL/C61MXdDnnNxJzATXuLzXwU wzrvMmxv9oJRd2S4uocJ76xIiOgAGt5pjEJUNS5Uaspx/MtGhuox04X989aZRtw0 zALag4PNGkTHzWaOq4v9 =UUOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p1s0lPpwITioP6CHu73ioe38RMvDHoPb2--