X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <5592BE57.1070603@neurotica.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:51:54 -0600 Message-Id: <92F7AB1B-9589-4CFB-8929-24634BBDE8E2@noqsi.com> References: <1435510363 DOT 682 DOT 26 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <55902AB9 DOT 9000004 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150629113018 DOT GH19654 AT fi DOT muni DOT cz> <1435581145 DOT 1447 DOT 19 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20150630083528 DOT GY19654 AT fi DOT muni DOT cz> <1435666431 DOT 676 DOT 13 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <5833A5F3-C17B-409D-A3B3-553F9DCFEAC5 AT noqsi DOT com> <5592ABB1 DOT 7090404 AT plastitar DOT com> <724860AC-6174-478A-AFD9-A1B117161F58 AT noqsi DOT com> <5592BE57 DOT 1070603 AT neurotica DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t5UGq4Jx016291 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) wrote: > On 06/30/2015 11:24 AM, John Doty wrote: >> No. I find it incomprehensible. A good tool would construct complex >> objects out of simpler ones, with trivially simple objects at the >> bottom. But PCB can’t do that: it’s just a mess of special-purpose >> hacks that interact in peculiar and confusing ways. This makes PCB >> very rigid and difficult to use. > > This is getting very old, John. > > If you don't like PCB, don't use it. I don’t. > > If you don't like PCB but want to use it, do something to "fix" it. I don’t want to fix it. I just want it kept separate from geda-gaf. One should not design a space age transportation system around the needs of oxcarts. > > Do something constructive. You mean like https://github.com/noqsi/gnet-spice-noqsi? Or the other two gnetlist back ends I posted to the list yesterday? Or the stuff on my gedasymbols page? I also have improved Allegro and PADS back ends that I hope to get around to publishing soon. > Don't just sit there and spout off with > your obvious hatred for PCB. Don’t just sit there and defend a broken program. Where are your contributions? John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com