X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive? From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 08:19:38 -0600 Message-Id: <5833A5F3-C17B-409D-A3B3-553F9DCFEAC5@noqsi.com> References: <1435510363 DOT 682 DOT 26 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <55902AB9 DOT 9000004 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150629113018 DOT GH19654 AT fi DOT muni DOT cz> <1435581145 DOT 1447 DOT 19 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20150630083528 DOT GY19654 AT fi DOT muni DOT cz> <1435666431 DOT 676 DOT 13 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t5UEJjvn032500 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) wrote: > John Doty : In the name of a more open workflow I was advocating PCB > changing/adding TSV as an accepted input format for the other > attributes I was suggesting. The idea being to break out of the > workflow issues you see in PCB. > Wouldn’t help in the least bit. The core issue with PCB is that it has no coherent model of what a PCB is: it’s just a grab bag of “features” with no foundation. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: >> On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 10:35 +0200, Jan Kasprzak wrote: >>> it would be nice if I could just draw the schematics, choose >>> footprints for it, route the PCB, and send the Gerber files to the >>> fab. >> >> Sure. I think that is the main reason that so many people (at least here >> in Germany) are using Eagle. Eagle is not very powerful, not very easy >> to use or beautiful, but has a large collection of trustful symbols and >> footprint. >> >> For FOSS EDA situation is not that good. Some people may create some >> symbols or footprints and maybe make them public available, but do not >> care much about systematically naming or quality. There are a few >> exceptions of course, Mr Luciano (name may be misspelled) tried to >> create high quality PCB footprints, and some people at gedasymbols tried >> it also. I am not sure if situation is really better for KiCAD. And >> converters from commercial products like Eagle? I do not think that is >> really legal and that commercial companies will like that. >> > > > > -- > Home > http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ > Work > http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com