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On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:29 AM, <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:

>
> BTW, all my symbols are GPL'd and are publicly accessible. It just happens
> that they are not hosted on gedasymbols.org.
>

How might I find them? I could imagine a web page that has links to
repositories, but ... why not just combine them all on gedasymbols? It's
not like you lose control or attribution.


> What displeases me about your proposal is this: if I understood you
> correctly, gedasymbols would be an integral part of the tools. They would
> be coupled so tightly that I wouldn't have the option not to use
> gedasymbols.org. I wouldn't have the option to maintain my own private or
> public libs hosted elsewhere under GPL or other license. I would be forced
> to license my libs under the GPL and automatically share them. It'd be
> unreasonable and unacceptable restrictions on how I'd use a free software.
> You would remove the ability that users can chose how to use something
> because you believe you have a better way that should be forced on everyone.
>

My bad! I shouldn't have combined those two ideas, because they are sharply
severable. Let me describe them separated:

Problem: people don't find parts in the shipped library, so they create new
parts that probably are already in gedasymbols.
Solution: ship a copy of gedasymbols as the library and provide a way to
keep it up to date.

Problem: people create parts that aren't in gedasymbols, and don't
contribute them back.
Solution: give them a public and a private symbol/fp folder. When they
update gedasymbols, publish the public folder back to gedasymbols.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:29 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gedau=
@igor2.repo.hu" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"window.open(&#39;https://mail.=
google.com/mail/?view=3Dcm&amp;tf=3D1&amp;to=3Dgedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu&amp;cc=
=3D&amp;bcc=3D&amp;su=3D&amp;body=3D&#39;,&#39;_blank&#39;);return false;">=
gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br></div></div>
BTW, all my symbols are GPL&#39;d and are publicly accessible. It just happ=
ens that they are not hosted on <a href=3D"http://gedasymbols.org" target=
=3D"_blank">gedasymbols.org</a>.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How mi=
ght I find them? I could imagine a web page that has links to repositories,=
 but ... why not just combine them all on gedasymbols? It&#39;s not like yo=
u lose control or attribution.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
What displeases me about your proposal is this: if I understood you correct=
ly, gedasymbols would be an integral part of the tools. They would be coupl=
ed so tightly that I wouldn&#39;t have the option not to use <a href=3D"htt=
p://gedasymbols.org" target=3D"_blank">gedasymbols.org</a>. I wouldn&#39;t =
have the option to maintain my own private or public libs hosted elsewhere =
under GPL or other license. I would be forced to license my libs under the =
GPL and automatically share them. It&#39;d be unreasonable and unacceptable=
 restrictions on how I&#39;d use a free software. You would remove the abil=
ity that users can chose how to use something because you believe you have =
a better way that should be forced on everyone.<br></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div>My bad! I shouldn&#39;t have combined those two ideas, because the=
y are sharply severable. Let me describe them separated:</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Problem: people don&#39;t find parts in the shipped library, so they=
 create new parts that probably are already in gedasymbols.</div><div>Solut=
ion: ship a copy of gedasymbols as the library and provide a way to keep it=
 up to date.</div><div><br></div><div>Problem: people create parts that are=
n&#39;t in gedasymbols, and don&#39;t contribute them back.</div><div>Solut=
ion: give them a public and a private symbol/fp folder. When they update ge=
dasymbols, publish the public folder back to gedasymbols.=C2=A0</div></div>=
</div></div>

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