X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1426990051; bh=cVY71LInuCTfjhGnn9K/R50bZ4RPkcFd2DKHIBstUVc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=a2ZxxHRwm9IFfITuAxydX5eFw3/HyFfIaixX3NiwfVYSnNvFzgzs8FEnkYSBB7jbs b2bHbaYpfNN3AgjlUuhBRrpFYkHKKKikyCoS6AY8tlSDs5YvVPG4a6Uu8sgEiGsRJD DzQhJ7SuAe2Ezl3RQGhCsDJ0Sx5Us9jgvBQtAtqU= Authentication-Results: smtp4o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 07:06:58 +0500 From: Alexey Shaposhnikov To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb alternatives Message-ID: <20150322070658.7eea49a8@warrawoona.sti> In-Reply-To: References: <5508413E DOT 4000405 AT ecosensory DOT com> <46050a0c DOT 619 DOT 14c2850d052 DOT Webtop DOT 45 AT optonline DOT net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t2M27be6027715 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 04:20:41 +0100 (CET) gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > I think, at some point, it's be a real major step forward if the standard > lib could be separated from gschem and pcb into a standalone package. Then > there could be standard lib variants: the current set for those who > already have a lot of designs depending on these and a new, clean > set. The clean set would have only one plain diode symbol that actually > has a pinout that fits the PCB footprints and is also good for spice > simulation. It looks good in theory but in practice there is a problem: http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:transistor_guide So these "diode-1.sym ... diode-infinity.sym" will quickly come back due to lack of any abstraction layer over symbols and footprints in current gEDA. P.S. I know what "fake slots" can be used for pin remapping, but, IMHO, it is no less tedious and error-prone method. Especially for beginner. -- С уважением, Алексей Шапошников.