X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb alternatives From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <5508413E.4000405@ecosensory.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:23:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: <5508413E DOT 4000405 AT ecosensory DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t2HGNK5b007844 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:59 AM, John Griessen wrote: > I'm the same -- hard to see what is so hard about it anymore. It's usually > the lack of an organized small group of current-day-usable footprints > that puts people off. What puts *me* off is the lack of any clear conceptual foundation to stand on. There are no elementary objects to group together to make complex objects. There’s no grouping hierarchy. Instead, there are predefined complex objects with arbitrary magical properties, interacting in unpredictable ways. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com