X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4qIB8c3zox2m+s4qQpezdzGfZz9iky+1VX/AKqf60FU=; b=OAaMaw2n+9Erl52Yw+XBDLfcZPBUroathM33PdYuK38Dar1wnPQUtjNhUoF6i0bqAr xrlLvIXRj+nsyZ/Gsv0wS14I5IU7EcJv5jpBzCquRJXux4j/qY3ve9363hEGKy9SApTu oVp1m0FoNGd40W3ekpj3IXziL1hGZl+oP8UE6WAWD0VqQPRqjHTsJ75mf1SAv8/8KOvO 2+/tgpExFB03BEPlQ8xZ9bbCTZMPSqWzfpc3Rrg2zl6lHGQCRO+zbEIEVzcYLfJaNDVi X+9dxwRz5ntriYR+xYOVxq8tGMPXKYzC1njWzYZXjRHqTUi7ZshVylesRtnjVx4E4XmJ nKaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.90.81 with SMTP id w75mr18819946qgd.57.1425654675675; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 07:11:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54F98855.4060903@optonline.net> References: <201503051621 DOT t25GL09H018380 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <54F98855 DOT 4060903 AT optonline DOT net> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 16:11:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] [OT] Temperature sensor and control recommendation From: Bernhard Kraft To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t26FBJ6b024327 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk There are some free code examples around for implementing the "running average" algorithm which is probably what you want. But I still think you need a decent enough ADC (14-16 bit) to solve the requirements (resolution = 450/0.3) On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:58 AM, gene glick wrote: > On 03/05/2015 11:21 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> >>> I'm facing the need to control the temperature of a small sample in a >>> chamber between room temperature and about 450°C with a precision of >>> 0.3°C or better. >> >> >> I use a thermocouple to monitor my woodstove, but I don't care so much >> about precision. I use a DS2760 thermocouple kit from Parallax for >> it, and a high-temp thermocouple probe from Omega.com. >> >> For monitoring my geothermal system, I used RTDs and an MCU's ADC to >> measure them. I got extra precision by doing each measurement 64 >> times and averaging, and the tech who calibrated my geothermal system >> says they're spot-on. >> >> I use the same averaging trick on my thermostats to get 0.1F readings >> on a 1C-rated sensor. If your sensor isn't noisy enough to use this >> trick, you can always add noise - you're basically building a 1-bit >> ADC. >> >> > we use this trick at work as well - converts a 12-bit ADC to 16-bit > precision. I think the relationship requires you need 2^n samples for each > bit of additional resolution. This is off the top of my head, but is > probably close. So if I remember correctly, we had to sample an extra 16X to > get the additional 4-bit precision. It works really well. But yes, it relies > on noise to work and assumes the measurement is relatively stable over the > sampling period. I believe the technical term for this trick is decimation. > > gene > >