X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 (debian 1:2.8.0~rc1-2) with nmh-1.5 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: inbox From: karl AT aspodata DOT se To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: 3D data and support [WAS: Re: [geda-user] FOSDEM] In-reply-to: <1424000799.20046.1.camel@cam.ac.uk> References: <1420499386 DOT 3521 DOT 3 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <20150202152654 DOT GA13336 AT cuci DOT nl> <54CFD589 DOT 9040702 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20150203112631 DOT 3507a0c1 AT Parasomnia DOT thuis DOT lan> <20150204054256 DOT Horde DOT Pm1JV8RJbICk9SHvIGwZ7A3 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <20150204193720 DOT Horde DOT 42xUN-NzhCJRWZne-M5eCQ1 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <90236728-E79D-47C7-BFB1-34140DB85ACB AT sbcglobal DOT net> <1423323918 DOT 1592 DOT 10 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <1423329222 DOT 1592 DOT 12 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <54D67DAE DOT 5000805 AT neurotica DOT com> <20150214111652 DOT 1e9765c8 AT jive> <1 423956972 DOT 16089 DOT 2 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <1423966586 DOT 16089 DOT 8 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <20150215091033 DOT C01CD81A5EB8 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <1424000799 DOT 20046 DOT 1 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> Comments: In-reply-to Peter Clifton message dated "Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:46:39 +0000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Message-Id: <20150215163630.3DC9481A5EB8@turkos.aspodata.se> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:36:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Peter Clifton: > On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 10:10 +0100, karl AT aspodata DOT se wrote: > > Peter Clifton: > > > > Having parts models in AP210 (and suitable code to handle them), I > > > should be able to directly export a full 3D board + parts model for > > > consumption by downstream tools. It will also be possible to embed > > > faceted geometry representations that are simple enough for us to parse > > > and render without heavy-weight CAD libraries. (Both faceted and BREP > > > models can co-exist in STEP files). > > > > ap210 seems complex and unfortunately the standard is buried within ISO: > > You are correct on both counts, although "buried within ISO" is solvable > if you hand over 352CHF. I know that part. > Alternatively, your library or university might > have a subscription to view ISO standards. (In the library in Cambridge, > UK I can view BSI standards, which includes much of the original ISO > 10303 (STEP) standard parts, which were adopted as British standards). ... Maybe in the reference section, i.e. I can't borrow it home. > Btw.. "seems complex" will seem like a grand understatement if you ever > start looking at the standard. I'm still only scratching the surface of > it myself, and I've been looking at this on and off for some time now. What can I say after 30min browsing... > The key is that we won't likely need to implement / use all of the > standard.. it is quite broadly scoped, and at the moment, I feel there > is quite a small sub-set we may find useful in the first instance. Well, that is one of the hard parts, what to leave out. /// If you want help with some small part of it, testing, etc., please feel free to ask. Regards, /Karl Hammar ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57