X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at papyrus.altaweb.hu Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 11:16:52 +0100 From: Lev To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] FOSDEM Message-ID: <20150214111652.1e9765c8@jive> In-Reply-To: <54D67DAE.5000805@neurotica.com> References: <1420499386 DOT 3521 DOT 3 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <20150202152654 DOT GA13336 AT cuci DOT nl> <54CFD589 DOT 9040702 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20150203112631 DOT 3507a0c1 AT Parasomnia DOT thuis DOT lan> <20150204054256 DOT Horde DOT Pm1JV8RJbICk9SHvIGwZ7A3 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <20150204193720 DOT Horde DOT 42xUN-NzhCJRWZne-M5eCQ1 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <90236728-E79D-47C7-BFB1-34140DB85ACB AT sbcglobal DOT net> <1423323918 DOT 1592 DOT 10 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <1423329222 DOT 1592 DOT 12 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <54D67DAE DOT 5000805 AT neurotica DOT com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id t1EAH4J5002143 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 16:03:42 -0500 Dave McGuire wrote: > I still maintain, however, that there would be an image > problem. It is most decidedly a nontechnical issue, and in a perfect > world it should never even come up. Most people don't really care about the implementation. It is only us, the electrical engineers AND programmers at the same time, who argue. When I was employed as a professional PCB designer, my colleges didn't know, and didn't even care what is going on behind the scenes. I haven't seen an engineer saying: I don't use this EDA tool, because the file format is XML, or Lua, or whatever. However, I've seen lots of engineers who say I use this EDA tool because this have this and that feature over that EDA tool, which lacs them. So I think we should make our mind up, decide, design, and implement. I think the bottleneck of gEDA today is the file format of PCB. * arbitrary paste shape * arbitrary solder mask openings * 3D data - at least a height would be nice If we had that three, gEDA would get a big push ahead. Levente