X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:12:52 -0800 From: Larry Doolittle To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] FOSDEM Message-ID: <20150207221252.GA26071@recycle.lbl.gov> References: <20150204193720 DOT Horde DOT 42xUN-NzhCJRWZne-M5eCQ1 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <90236728-E79D-47C7-BFB1-34140DB85ACB AT sbcglobal DOT net> <1423323918 DOT 1592 DOT 10 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <1423329222 DOT 1592 DOT 12 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <54D67B5B DOT 6060205 AT neurotica DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Evan - On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 04:08:14PM -0500, Evan Foss wrote: > I really think having PCB work & look respectable is more critical to > pulling in a community than messing with Lua. I agree in theory. But there are some deep limitations to PCB that make a file format change inevitable, if it's to work "respectably" into the future. The limitation I'm most aware of is the nearly non-existent description of a pad-stack. As long as the format has to change, the discussion here starts (forgive me for putting words in people's mouths) by wondering how best to change it; and one clear goal is to change it such that further changes are easy, and maximally forward and backward compatible. I'm one of the many people who got used to using awk and grep to help me work with PCB files. But I'm sure I could get used to firing up python for those jobs, with the understanding that people who favor perl, scheme, lua, mathematica, and forth could also play at this game. - Larry